So that was it then that kind of a story an example. goal is, I tell the story a lot to model, you know, empathy in the family. So my sister and sister, and my mother had a fight, you know, during Christmas about where the gifts were kept. And they were going at each other, like, in the middle of the room, everything looked like it was going to blow up. And I thought, Okay, I have to do something. Right. And I had that awareness, that sense of credit, that wanting to create a sense of presence, where I first listened to my sister in law, just with empathic listening, I hear you're really upset, because this and this, right, I'm totally present. And then she said, Yes. And then I shifted to, you know, my mother did the same thing. But the feeling that there was two feelings in my body, one was sort of this presence, you know, kind of warmth, trying to be present with him. And the other was, like, totally terrified. I mean, I was I, it was like, it was like, in the marrow of my bones, that it was like just a cold, you know, deep anxiety and fear and terror. I laugh, just the real, release it a little bit. So, at the same time, I had both of those, you know, but I was trying to stay focused, you know, with them and listening. Hmm.