Are you to us on purpose just to give us an excuse to city council on issues that
need to be fixed those issues, please check your chart series. I like to ask them if there's anything that we are discussing. Understanding. Please don't just go ask us we will start getting information. You didn't quite understand what was being asked. But because everybody else has voted, you voted on this. You're here to represent that 510 15,000 people in your MP up you don't want to miss giving sitting leader decision. So you have to take this very seriously. At least as of right now, I'm still on board so we won't be able to adopt the agenda
or to receive the dance. I have some changes. Mr. Xi 100. You know, this is our commentary. And fortunately, Mr. Fletcher has now
stated that if you are an employee of the city city, you can leave a passport
so as
your job resignation and visionary way Well, here's the job you'll still be voting for years in a row. And it doesn't matter. We have another parliamentarian so to my right this morning. Is Mr. Alan Kessler. All of you know Kim asked us to guess register this year as a voluntary he's currently the chair of the Bylaws Committee as the parliamentarian, however, he is officially a member of the bylaws. And that means that we will be appointing a new chair. He will still be on that committee. If you have interest in the bylaws committee. We had a meeting. We tried to set up Thursday. Let me know before we leave today
we need 13 members to make the work so we're going to move down to the agenda. And we're down to our strategic planning update says post everything else as far as the vote step would be to turn it over to leave the room, I think is on the agenda to show us what we can do is time
to go over that before we actually make that decision about Mr. Martin just heard tonight attention that we can go ahead and do public comment as it does not. And we were discussing starting today to have to move public comment up to the period where we have Congress officials to make that public comment, period. It looks like we do have a quorum now. According to coordinate are you representing a US
network serving Wi
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secure Jones. Kyle Kessler. How a lot. Lee Jim Martin and Phillips Richard Brown, Terry Ross. Here normally Simon is suggesting here. Richard Taylor. Norwood Thurman right here. Eric tumor
you intend to meet with resin so could you start with the agenda in the natural border? Adoption of the agenda? Yes, sir. Can we get a second? All right. Is there anybody that opposes adoption of this agenda? Hearing none, the agenda will be adopted by unanimous
is Sir, I want to do
a motion that
we limit ourselves within an
hour to the motion that we put in ourselves. Discussion for any two minutes per person in the process.
Yeah, okay.
Let me make sure you motioning that we limit any discussion on any item to two minutes in person and that was the second item. Okay, and we only get to speak on each item when everybody heard the motion. Mr. Krause is second. Is that correct? Was it you you're with me? I'm still favorite.
Problem is you have to worry because people are the ones that go back to
work. Okay, we need to get a second
we have started
motion and seconded. Discussion. My question okay.
So this motion was to actually see so many for a lot of time, someone's present in past activities, but they're responding to us, but we're really proud of the efficiency of the process and even the best that will give ourselves time to do it. So to two minutes drive, and then we move on to the SS rules.
And the other thing I pick exception, because I understand efficiency, and I'm all in favor of elimination and each person the one Robert's Rules of
Order, allows you to
get my questions to go back to the end. Of the line in this order here with pepper and most of the teams, so
sorry, we need to take your mic and put it between you and us right now.
I'll repeat. I'll repeat that Michael microphones are not meant to gamble. Here is for the people that are watching at home. The reason they can't hear each other as we discussed last one is that the air is very loud. I will ask you a second question in the back of your resume to turn the volume up. So that these people for each other and I would also ask that you protect your own returns like seven weeks
later, or whatever the talk is here.
She's checking out to see if there's another hidden meal. So if she gets out on the volume with your wife, because she's working, he or she has to
do this again. That has to be up as loud. I need to
go back to the motion this situation Have
you heard the motion Mr. Ross had come in about the motion. Mr. Ross. Are you asking him to modify this motion?
Yeah, yeah, I said I agree with the motion. And then all in part two minutes
per person,
one question per person.
Another question should arrive, arise that person should be able to go back in life and that's the second.
thing is most of the time the question is simply about British accent. And I really agree with
Jeff, just for clarification, he wasn't happy feeling the first time he ever came in minutes to spy on each member to make sure that they
enter names and what is the starting at two minutes. And
in other words, if I were to speak one minute, then I would reserve my next minute. Each person can do that.
But also realize that we limit ourselves to minutes and one time
we can walk in motion as long as my second ever reads I will do that. That case, I said that everyone's comfortable with the second part of the motion is my secondary agreement. I will leave that part off. But I would like for us to sell this. This is just to help us to gain efficiency. And that's why it requires us to build on it and two thirds because we are essentially protesting our rights on this floor. So Miss Scott. Okay, so I will amend my motion to limit ourselves to two minutes per item on delay. And
as your second citizen you've heard the motion and second discussion, all in favor of adopting this motion, please. That's just raise your hands
soon as everybody except those Oh, okay,
everybody, so your choice. I gotta raise my hand and oh.
Okay, that motion passes. All right. Thank you so much. For those of you that were not here earlier, I can make you announcement then. Mr. Hunter of our former colleagues and terrier is officially an employee of the city of Atlanta congratulations. And as such, he has sent us his resignation as the parliamentarian. Our bylaws state that if you work for the city, you can be on the board but you cannot be an officer. So in keeping with that he has submitted to us his resignation as a parliamentarian and he still represents his NPU and so it was still kind of fortunate enough to have him with us. As such, I did appoint Mr. Kyle Kessler, to be our parliamentarian and to serve out the rest of this year in that category. Mr. Kessler, as you know, was the chair of the Bylaws Committee. Our Bylaws Committee consist of people, one of whom is always the parliamentarian so he automatically has a seat on their banners in me unloading appointing a new chair to them, so that we don't overload him but again to deal with
the water if you were to right now.
And tentatively, we have a meeting scheduled for Thursday at six o'clock. And we'll get more information to you about that, that we found last week is all of the members of surface intuitive are able to attend and we're gonna confirm that before we leave today. So this is what I like to say well. Now, we decided at the executive committee meeting that the ALU Well, sorry, the minutes from the June 17. And I apologize that they had to shift these taking minutes from the GPD out of your bag.
media report I'm sorry. But it's it's should be in your packet. Take a quick minute to go over those and see if anything needs to be corrected,
mended or you have questions about any part of it.
Everybody
it's a motion to write thank you so much. Can I get a second? Right. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Kevin. All right. It's been motion and seconded that our meeting report be received as printed. All those in favor, just please raise your hands. As everybody so Karen, you didn't understand I missed you. So that's Mr. Are you raising virtual Can you believe it? I'm sorry. Are you voting I voted?
Right along. As I was saying earlier, at the executive committee meeting on Monday, we discussed removing this category, Congress from what I beneficials and elected officials to show it to the meeting center
credit cards to be alive and we will
give them a moment to speak on whatever it is. We want to remove this category and move public comment up to this section.
Talks about that
I think it's a great idea.
Alright, so that being said, and we'll open up the floor for public comment, we're going to ask that if you have a public comment. You go up to the podium so that we can see that the young lady can record you each person has one minute for your public comment and board members. We're going to allow you to tune in if you have questions or we need to discuss the public comment and want to mister
Thank you, all for you to all receive or this facility. is going to turn on
modern technologies so complicated. Hopefully everybody has received one of these people, of course haven't. This is a copy that's going into the newspaper events distribution areas MPW is coming out this weekend the importance of this is to promote a referendum people's referendum on the November 7 ballot. That when you go to vote, people voted up or down. The important thing is to vacation sign. And I want to thank several people here that are doing that like charters. Thank you. So whatever you can encourage. I would encourage you all to encourage them to serve the rest of my time for next month. Thank you so much.
Let's just start. Where do we find this petition in order to sign it? You're up during the last few quarters
many different places. So Westview corner grocery store, but you can also go to I want to say cop city vote or vote cop city and there's information necessarily
for the benefit of people watching at home. Sure, so also there are two addresses one of them is 711 Catherine
So to answer the question, where do you find more information about the cop city? Vote you can one place you go to was West Rocher on the west side, but you can also go to Bo Park City or at the proxy vote.com For more information about where you can go throughout the city to find people that have petitions for you to be able to sign up to cop city vote.com.
Okay, thank you so much for coming.
So, my comment today is about the mission and purpose of a car that will be discussed later on in this meeting. What I found to be a challenge and perhaps an underlying issue is that a majority of eight members would like for a fabs to continue functioning more so as a city wide board that directly advises the city on all matters. However, as you may know, and as noted in the legislation, city legislation, AIPAC is legislated to function as a board that advises the city specifically on matters regarding citizen participation in the planning process, such as the updating of the comprehensive development plan, and ensuring annually that introduced are providing feedback on home related funding proposals, as noted in the citizen participation plan for Atlanta. In other words, a map only has the authority to revise the city on matters dealing with how citizens participate in the planning process of our city. While a power may be limited to advising exclusively on citizen participation or what matters in the US have broader authority in our legislative to recommend any action policy of comprehensive plans in the city on matters affecting livability of the neighborhood. In other words, it is MP use and have the authority to directly advise the city on all matters such as transportation, housing, economic development, public safety, water, and again on all matters related to the city. Again, currently, LeapPad is only legislative to function as a board that directly advises the city on citizen participation related to the goals and issues relative to the comprehensive development plan, as stated in the city code. If the desire is to be or to function as a city wide advisory board that has the same authority as in the US, may this board appeal to the city council to consider amending legislation. May I have 30 More seconds, man 30 More seconds please
can I have a bill to my trusty ciao to the system when people think is
good. We have the balance of my time which you only
have one minute to stick around. I'm sorry, we used to two minutes. Questions that you still hear us twice a day. Thank you so much. So
the desire is for is to function
by Mr. Sharp, please. That's not to be rude. I do we have additional public comments. Mr. Ross?
The delivery? Yeah. Good morning. I just wanted to let everyone know that the Learning Community Engagement playbook will be on that course will be tied to slide 29 In the city of Atlanta. It will be
no yes.
Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Switch it on Switch switch switch up here to manage. Reporting. I just want to let everyone know that the community engagement playbook course was July 29 through the MPU University. That is an in person course everyone gets a lot of community engagement playbook to go with it. And we highly recommend it for anyone involved in the city of Atlanta, whether it's in the process based organizations, whatever this is a structured framework on what productive community engagement looks like. Half the book is dedicated to city departments and service providers. The other half is dedicated to residents because as we both know it's a two way street. It requires actions responsibility and accountability on both sides. And so the playbook course we highly recommended for each and every one taping if you can, you can go to the NPU dashboard or MP university or you can call the number at 404-546-0158 seating is limited so get in where you fit in as quickly as possible place they should be painted like
we see the date for the people that help sure it's July 29,
which was Saturday because at 10am and I believe recreation center. But again all that information is available via registration portal phone number five, I'm sorry 404-546-0158.
Hello, I'd like to yield my time to Mr. Sharp. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you very much. Thank you
kind of pick up right here. In other words, it is the interviews that have the authority to directly advise the city on all matters related to transportation housing, economic development, public safety water, and you get on all matters we can currently AICPA is only legislative to function as a board that directly advises the city on citizen participation related issues and goals, all relative to the comprehensive development plan, as stated in the Atlanta city code, and if the desire of AIPAC is to be or to function as a citywide advisory board that hadn't same authority as May this board appealed to the city council to consider amending legislation so as to allow for a path to legally function in a way in which you very much fall rate. And so for now, if not seeking to have city legislation amended, I encourage this board to have a mission and a purpose that are in direct alignment with the city life state functions. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Sharpe, and Mr. Freeman, thank you so much for thanks.
Morning, I'm here in green. Today, Pam, just just want to state that there's only been one formal response there that a lot of department or any comments, departments they have regarding that their bylaws and that was dated April 3 to the President as president April 3. They refer they say down by almost all the bylaws that have not been created by the city's nonprofit which is a requirement for them to be filed with the city clerk. The reason why one reason why is because right now, Facebook requires that the registrar be transferred to the city clerk's office. Some of those records including bylaws, and mission had to be made at first, by the city law department before they filed with the clerk's office. One of the issues that's causing the membership was their membership this third pass only includes current keeping changes, which needs their members on a path. Membership is that do not correspond to the focus records on file and close records and on file are the legal documents for the C which means basically everything in the baseboard. There's a discrepancy in this today between dashboards we should do this for the cities in this day and age. I will urge them to really look at moving forward within their bylaws, does and membership verifications backed by city attorneys so that the requisite consistent and legal is once the base code. Thank you, Mr. Green. Yes,
I was just saying Miss Smith, did you want to come in this morning? Is that all is me
introduce yourself I could note that among visitors.
All right. Good morning, folks. Sorry for the attire and brushed I had to leave our neighborhood clean up early when I found out public comment. So good morning. My name is Heather gray Bell. I sit on the executive board of Lakewood heights and NPY. The past couple of weeks I've been harassed and threatened by an anonymous individual identifying as ATL board watchdog. This individual is spreading baseless sandwich and reverse copy and speaking on behalf of Lakewood heights. And mpy leadership. One of these emails was shared and discussed in a pub executive session this past Monday. So I wanted to come on the record to ensure that you have actual documentation of the actual board's ICER speaking my character and worked in our community, so being passed around now our letters of support for myself from the executive boards of liquid heights and p y condemning the claims made by this individual. I've said it 100 times I will say it 100 More we are all volunteers doing these roles because we believe in making our students better. Now we may disagree on the desired outcomes of the path to get there, but at the core I believe we're all doing this as prepared. It's important to continue to support our volunteers encourage our democratic processes and this kind of anonymous rhetoric. If you have questions or comments, please reach out to me and I'm always more than happy to have a conversation thank you.
Thank you so much. And most of us most of the problems she's talking about I do have concern to the executive committee on Monday, an email that we received and the reason I had to present it to our executive committee was because the email was sent to us by the name of a watchdog Rubeus or whatever but it was sent to the city's ethics board to Mr. Soto dad who is the person that we send our nominations to for what is my tear, and to me, and to another person on the Beltline. And ultimately, it was a very derogatory email that they sent it was not presented to you on today's package. The only reason it was presented to a senator board is in case the mailman comes back and says we need to discuss this because, as she said, just recently appointed to the debate last night have you been seated already? Yes. Okay. So what are the questions about it now? We want to edit it as much as I can. Canada will answer everything cheating. Yeah, hopefully we
can continue as you got letters of support you know, support number for you and the linguistics, association leadership
and public folders we have a presentation that is listed down below or appointments for today, however. Miss Dorothy Hurst was pointing to the acrp for NP use never get this right.
I never knew she was out.
In this office, however, she said she
and just whatever it is, she's embarking on now she wanted to go ahead and get started. So now we have vacancy for NPs in the through and impede us G through L. We do have one application for in there. And that came from the chair if you are but it was brought up at the executive committee that we needed to notify all of those of us that this is the kind of deal so sending out a letter to compete news and to let them know as long as available to be able to G through L build there is a slot available and hopefully get some other nominations for those slots. Mr. Hunter
are going for
the nomination was for Mr. Bhushan for AP
AP it was
our first
misimpression okay demonstrations are getting this Mr. Russian have given up contact back remains Doctor. Doctor we talked about we put out some symbols or information months ago, but she didn't have time to tell us feel that I asked her to keep her resume on file and deposition came full circle. So they sent it back over so she has a very very impressive background in history. But we do want to make sure that all of the impacts of us have an opportunity to signal domination in the citizen
All right, we don't do resolutions. Before we go into the two resolutions that we have on the agenda, passed on to the Lanham Act asked about this morning, the materials opinion on our vote on these two resolutions in the US made. And only recently, it was not about the executive resolutions themselves just just some subsequent brochures and so on. So we're going to turn it over to Mr. Martin. He's coming out of babysitter zoning. I'm going to turn the floor over to him to discuss those two resolutions and if you have any questions about the commentaries, please just raise your hand
Yes, so what we have before us the first resolution
is dealing with
the Sony rewritings hopefully you have all had a chance to create understanding misrepresentations about prior discussion. Essentially what it says is that where destiny is to be increased should be increased prior to the process of rezoning rather than by a process of redefining the meaning of the current zoning. We have done that in the past it is well established process and works well for us. And you otherwise, to support that process. I am happy to read the resolution record and give anyone a chance to read it. Answer any questions about it and that is essentially the summary of what he says
this vision was submitted prior to that meeting, so pretty much I think everybody has had a chance to read it and if we did discuss it at that at that meeting. That being said, does anyone have any questions about the resolution, Mr. Ontario so
it is the most extreme thing.
Barbara gave me the most calls and particularly comes with price range that goes on, basically not to undertake any numbers over all the work that went as far as wanting to go right into it hasn't stated that we are going to have to densify that other areas to be honest and perfectly balanced out of decision making. Sounds fine to me. So because we are going to assume in the current process, I believe that it is most appropriate to discuss given tracks during this process. And therefore that is why we are why are we moving to this resolution in addition to that copyrights pass on which they use in this this resolution device to be brought to the committee or put into use. They will be checked to see that they are this issue has been discussed that they want us to do
that. Okay. The resolution came out of it. Why? And the reason for voting against it is exactly the reason why you shouldn't vote in court. Because if your areas shouldn't be rezone for greater density then your area shouldn't be resolved. That does not mean we should reapply all areas of the CD similar zone in order to accommodate what you believe your area should have. Come to this process repeatedly in the past we've had to proactive resellers, my MBU, we've had five proactive responders one case. That is why we do proactive is because we put in an area in the city the current zoning is inappropriate and we'll develop a pattern should
in that area. We undertake
recommendations and use those recommendations and then a rezoning occurs that is the current process. Well it was in the past.
Okay, so I think that we have done this in areas where we're talking about major corridors and needs to be evaluated. It needs to be done at a better, more macro level. And that is why I homelessness as opposed to voting goes down. Because of this. We want to know the rules of engagement up front we want this to be a part of this is one of the work that has not been done on yours. Any of them that's correct. Okay. And also, just to be clear, you said this came out of wanting to know, what did you find that makes the city wide issue?
Well, okay, so everything starts somewhere. And this is a cya. And it is a point of view that I certainly agree with and if not why, and if this action would adversely impact anyone, then it shouldn't be conducted study, what if this action would be positive for 24 out of 25 in the US that it shouldn't inactivity 24 out of 25 So the idea that something comes out of a single entity view and is therefore not observed.
So I'm not saying it's absurd, but, you know, if you touches the product by employees, and it would have been nice if we don't notice that what we're seeing are a new entity, how do you feel about this? Because our areas are pretty similar. We live in touch in different parts of the city. And so the magazine has been inviting you to do to work with me, and they said, Okay, you know, this is on my radar, and the other areas that have similar color, and in a similar argument that that would have been a great way for the committee to say, okay, P two are the other great landmarks on this city, that this resolution we're calling upon, that says that we don't want to do this and frankly, I've talked with people in other places.
This was publicly announced. I mean, if you if you believe that this should have been carried directly won't be up person who should have carried it directly. Thank you.
Okay, Mr. Tumor
put the mic a little bit
hard to see both sides.
More than one pain assessment team
to do protect neighborhoods, forming the governor pretending to the individual individuals that could benefit from being continuous to machines and is not for us. Because we fail to jeopardize the neighborhood in which we chose to live in the style and the demographics and shows where we purchase our houses. So
I would lean more
towards
a resolution cube has discussed best and we are more in favor of calling for resolution. Now we did not discuss the actual resolution. But can we choose some of the principles on the resolution and the new cube has expressed meaning
as the chairperson is your president let me give you an example. Why? See how we got this particular resolution? I shouldn't do that. Let me give you everybody here has heard about for the past 20 or 30 years, for as far as code finally they have stepped in and cleaned it out. And thank God Monday so our month ago, hood finally made the decision not to continue funding Millennials as the world's worst landlord slump. Before I even got a notice from her about the discontinuing of the funding, the city of Atlanta and I guess commissioned a planning company to go over to Thomas Thomas online this community and started developing a Thomasville would you not one of them? company that you're seeing bother to send the chair of APU an invitation to the meetings that they make to prepare different types. Then I get this notice from planning saying Tuesday five will be meetings Monday. There was no saying this is going to be on your agenda for a vote on Monday. This is a plan that they've been working on before you can say the thing to me about and they had what they call the stealing but I went down the list on the steering committee and recognized and recognized on the four members of Thomas V. President's Council on the rest of the folk from other agencies. The community members and community council, whatever, ultimately, you when we had that we choose an Auto Sum that, you know, I was going to ask them to defer because we just don't send us something on Tuesday. We got to vote on it on Monday and I have never seen this. I've never seen it at least the AP US never seen yet. So we deferred it. We had a couple of meetings about it. And I found it very interesting because of what your top RS code said now that millennial has been pushed out of the picture. Got a notice. Yesterday a day before that. Millennium the horoscope is on sale. Okay, yes. I'm just giving an example. Yeah, I understand. And ultimately, the whole point of it, though, is to increase the diversification along that corridor, right. If it had not been all this time, the APU would have had a bit of say sorry about that. So that's all I want to say to you.
You repeat that tradition of what this stands for? Whatever it was a wholesale Sony rewrite that consider expanding the definition of density.
Let me make this easier to explain why. So why home is so dark right. What happens inside is that you should have a power that you can use on my property to see finance and build a tower. You could also change the meaning of our for a save our board and our current status. Doing the ladder would be doing in the zoning room. Towers are now about in our gray water we'll be doing it to as we've always done which is to say this site is suitable for a coward let us rezone it to permitted. Okay. Those are two different approaches
to the same thing as
a firehouse. Okay. And what the resolution says is the first way rezoning one. Let's reach out to Martin's property to sci fi is the correct the wrong ways to say let's redefine our four eighths and our permitted hours so that Joe Armstrong having power and every other are for the properties of the planet may also be caused. Perhaps not every single arm right
I think this exactly the kind of thing we should be commenting on extending upstairs. However. Nationally, this is a big issue. What you're saying is let's not change anything. That isn't the way it is. That's not the momentum that is driving this process. We're driving in the other municipal areas in the city and in the country about this issue. So I think it's, it's our job to figure out how to say that simply stating the philosophical issue that we do need to make changes, sociologically and ecologically and everyone knows that studies are problematic that something needs to be done to fix that
involved in this situation.
What our residents
say is something's going to come out effect though, that people will rewrite again, should come up with a way to do this that pleases both sides, because each side, not my backyard or blinkers say our extremes and we should try this. We should suggest to the patient doing this work, that they should find a compromise that is acceptable for both sides. And this does not say that, and I commend you for bringing the issue up. I think the issue is extremely important that I think is what a family should be doing. But I don't think everybody in this table is on one side or the other. I think that there are half of us that are on one side you have literal humans typing even. You know, even we could even record conflict. So it's it's more about your effort to put this in writing into the news about the philosophical idea that you're coming into my thinking
needs more work to. Okay,
so then you're recommending Mr. Brown that we go back to the drawing board. To make it smooth make it fit. Everybody is supposed to be isn't just some Mr. Connor named Mr. tumor.
I want to clarify that I'm not I don't want blanket answer for any kind of academic exam that well, we just went to a zombie revival of Washington to grow closer towards southeast at some point. It took us at least five years to get that guy because we tried to actually get him to grow. But what we found out was that there was the potential to grow and come back into the area that was hotly contested. There are still some agriculture. There there have been a generation of zoning that has been placed in my area that hasn't been such a blessing. This is an opportunity to get something right we have areas that we want to identify and we have areas that we don't want to densify but I would like to see a point to explore further. We do want there to be a lot of densification as part of the zoning everyone doesn't even want to live. I don't want to wake zone density in my area. But there are areas that will be such as ISIS are the process that we combat with decisions again, like this whole data, but in the meantime, we have areas on our side to see the zoning completely outdated, and pick up that signal part of the time and to tears that money to get zoning change, expects to get ready for development. That's what I was thinking. I'm not a person that wants to every single house that I live on for a while. The yard has almost 200 feet from my house, my front door to the to the to the street. I enjoyed it and I don't want to put anything in from outside. But if my people wants to they should be allowed to believe there's a processor that says that they need to get funding. So that's one thing I wanted to do another process when we do when we when
I hear you saying that you agree with everything that's in the resolution but disagree with the resolution, which somewhat confuses me. So again, any rezoning rewrite process, the zoning rewrite process is not a rezoning process. Right? Those are two completely different processes. So if a property has inappropriate zoning, and should be rezone that it shouldn't be result I agree. Right? But that's different than changing the meaning of the current zoning. So if there's probably a long table to grow that some agricultural land you know, we had that but if the property on Campbell brothers sold agricultural, yeah, that's wildly inappropriate. Should we then say, agricultural zoning means you could build an office tower? Well, that's kind of silly. What we should do is rezone agricultural property C five, so you could go to different processes, same result, except that there's probably some other agricultural zoning around somewhere. And maybe an office that was
not appropriate. Mr. Reynolds seems like a grown up in the room.
Like to stay it seems to me that propellers and Fitbit any green space should be torn down and made into something concrete with time and brick and mortar, much I'm totally against and I felt that way. I like it. Realize that you wouldn't get through the process of better opportunity to come into everyday life lies I currently suppose that if his neighbor thought that he should be able to put another house on his property that he should be able to do so. I was told this
is the zoning that protects me from my papers, books and 1000s of kids behind them. And also me, personally, I've seen certain neighborhoods, and I really make them into a mishmash. So that's what this in my opinion, the best, oppose really does allow for somebody to do just that. And it's one of the main reasons why I can't and for more I'm against me, totally right. And for resolution.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we've exhausted quite a bit of time on this one issue. And we know for a fact that when we have these kinds of discussions, that means the whatever is the course.
So since I've spoken
to issue I noted as the second vice president, if she will take it away
what is being passed is a debate that has gone over. There'll be a recurring themes of this issue, to say to save themselves, the middle power lines. Concepts are leaving his body and so forth. I think Mr. I think Mr. Martin is nodding
so let's launch. The first let's let's not violate the procedure, that again, if you believe that this is requiring of revision, the correct course of action would be to vote against it. And then after is inhibited with emotion for sending back and forth revision, presumably with some suggestions that that is the that is the proper way for killers so if there's a bad round the floor and you'd like to do something other than a proof vote against don't call me a substitute clean something other than for Mr. Brown? No, I heard I mean, what is what I'm just saying from a procedural perspective.
But you still have the right to modify this based on what you've heard. You're the only person to do that. Under
this moment, right. This this is this is actually motion. So I mean, I don't know why Oh,
no, this one ended up.
So there's the ones game was interesting during the tournaments. So someone got committed can be self obsessed with the Germaine to what we're substituting and in fact changes out, which we take away, too. So don't don't get sucked into something. I'd like to highlight that because what was said is that we can actually do that
sorry, I did not mean to say that. That's how you interpreted and so and I don't disagree with the point you just made, but to do something diametrically opposed to what is so if the motion is to approve then to defer is doing other than as opposed to men and rapists and more abuse
and social behavior at
the point of the one as it should be, yes, sir.
Madam Chair, I think that your social right now, just in closing from the first commentary, that our error was procedural, as well, but the body did speak to that motion and other women, that the technical findings here, but our addition to the article itself is because of procedural not because that was the same.
Yes. i The errors were procedural that shouldn't be that one was such an emotion that was improper together was such that we have motion to that vote because prior to that there were post gross misrepresentations on which use cases and the nature of the improper substitution was itself. Can you
Alright, so let's go back to the motion. I'm sorry, the resolution does.
So, but But going back to the the prior point about amendment. If Richard is proposing that we amend then he can make a poster. I propose we amended this resolution in such a way. There's nothing improper about this. Right. But I didn't I didn't hear Richard say, proposed to men in some way. I heard Richard say I thought that it should be different in the abstract. All right.
So we can move on. We're gonna go ahead and take a vote on the resolution. I am going to abstain and turn it over to the first vice president I spoke on the issue so we're to let her conduct the vote.
Right. Welcome. Okay. The ownership has been delivered. And so we're going to call it and the best way to do with is the roll call. And so it's either yes or no. Abstain. Okay, let's start with Mr. Out. Go around this way. Just coming out in that way, as
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five, seven noes and six abstentions. So that motion fails. Yes, sir.
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all right. The motion made by Mr. Schumer is that we send this back for remind one thing I got the last call
well that might be a reality.
Okay, I want to make the motion that we set this resolution back to committee addressing specifically the hearing in contention when we're in the whole rewrite OSH Park summit somewhere in the beach.
And you said it is the motion by Mr. tuber that this resolution be sent back to committee specifically addressing the areas of concern or contention that we have today. It was seconded by Mr. Front. Are there any questions about the motion? Yes, Mr. Hodgman.
I just want to give a little bit of history about this particular resolution. It was a setback difficulty prior to that they came back and they came back the next day. That's not the issue that weren't addressed in the report the remaining are not changed.
He was sent back to the specific conditions and those specific provisions are met. Mr. Seller,
I believe is is there a current zoning category for blanket densification in the current level,
there are a variety of shunning categories that were made a variety of developments there is no specific development. I'm aware of that couldn't be accommodated by an existing zoning category. So I guess, you say is there is there one zoning category that would remove all zoning restrictions altogether? Like is there as a free for all zoning category here?
Well, like the tower example,
he has other category for that sci
fi and do other structures
within that or is it just for that?
Oh, so with with most job categories, with regard to density, there's an upper limit and no low. So if, for example, you had an MRC three zone, you could build very large mixed use, perhaps not tower but your tower, or you could build a single family home. If you had single family zoning, you could build a single family home but you couldn't build greater so what was the zoning categories are a cap on density, but not a not a minimum it may actually be in some of the single family categories. The home has to be at least 1000 square meters. Does that answer your question? Maybe I'm just understanding the nature of course, it does. I'm just trying to define what like intensification means like, oh, so again, it's a question of, do you change the zoning of this property or if you change the meaning of its current, right. So changing the zoning of a property would be for example, rezoning my home from our agency five, changing the meaning of the zoning would be changing. What are for a means to permit all that. is permitted. So that the net outcome of either of those two courses of action with regard to my property is the same would be the same. The difference is that in the latter case, when you change the meaning of the zoning, all of the art for a property in Atlanta in addition to mine would be changed as well. So the question is people want to just change my property, just change some of my number of properties and change all the numbers that
go back to the motion
hear me at all.
You know, that's the comprehensive plan and land use come into this discussion in a way that could achieve your goals. Because if the plan is mapped to some of these things, saying that the land use map reprograms a lot of colors to say that they need to be objective and the desire the will of the community is that use different colored areas become more higher density as a target for future land use. That could end up achieving density and crease. Wow. Continue to have some so many processes. As part of that, thank you, Mr. Brown. Is that a way that you by gentlemen,
let's go back to the motion. That's yeah. We have a motion on
the floor. I think what we're discussing now is, if it were to be sent back to me, how am I going to check which is relevant into the motion? Okay, and it answered yes. That that would quite often have done it in place before to check out the Beltline sub area plan, what they did when they initially implemented and changed the use map of the comprehensive development plan. Not so they made a private change witness rather than and what that did was it made it easier for properties to without actually rezoning and then they came back later and some of the sellers and collected some. So you can use steps in the direction of receiving the greatest setbacks and changes in society to see the changes to avoid that future change without actually without the madness
of visionary John West
there it not be
wise then to ask each of you to send it we send this back to me that you either attend his committee meeting, or you send over suggestions as to help you see this resolution being changed are those areas that you would like to see them incorporated and we can resolve it. Okay, so let's go back to the motion. The motion on the floor is that we send this resolution back to the land use and zoning committee and ask them to address the areas of concern are contingent that we agitate the no further questions about that motion. Mr. Brown Mr. Mark, Miss spoke to us. Yes. Yes. Mr. Taylor. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Sun. I'm sorry. Mr. Hunter. Mr. Timbre Mr. Donner dogs. No. Mr. Moss. Yes. Mr. Friend. Yes. Mr. Uh, you know, it's not to say this severe I'm sorry, Mr. Jones. Okay. Yes. abstaining. All right. Yes. Yes, we had Mr. Kessler statement. Right. So we should pass it on. tensions and motion has passed and for so many people. And again, everybody has comments. But if you're not attending the land use and zoning Committee. He doesn't know what to think. If you're not sending him something in writing, concerning the resolution as an original source. So if you can't make the committee meeting, at least send it to him in writing, what you think the resolution says. All right, with the right along
Yes, okay. So this person is before us again. For the same reason as the last. Dressing is essentially the removal of treatments that are hazardous. And particularly the problem means that if you are doing a treatment, destruction, there is a process by which you permit removal of that tree. I want to remove this tree so that I can put an addition on my home. I apply for it, I go through the process. What I've seen is that developers have instead said, Well, I want to remove this tree so I can put the dish on my own, but it looks and so I like to move into that record. And without public comment and without posting and getting barbers to increase that determination. Oh, yes, that is a hazardous tree and cut down the trees and put it in addition, the problem being and the reason why the tree is not producing staging permit is hazardous, but rather weathers construction. So we discussed this at great length and the issue that was raised. How do we ensure protection for homeowners who are wishing to remove a tree that they believe to be hazardous? And we went through this and discussed and debated quite a few different possibilities. And where we landed on was that if I as a homeowner remove a tree that I truly believed to be catching this and then later decide that I want to put an addition on my own, that I should be able to do that either by getting a professional determination that that tree was in fact hazardous or by going before the tree Conservation Commission and convincing them that that tree was in fact hazardous. Doing that when then remove the proposed moratorium on construction that was associated with the initial issuance of a permit to remove that giant hazardous tree. And I believe that our last meeting on this topic security, we're the one that stated all kinds of issues right about that. Right. Okay. So that was the 40 week moving forward, and I think it was in May when this was not revised. Our policy advisory Environment and Climate Education. So with that, I'm happy to answer questions.
I remember the discussion.
industry will have neighbors richer visual, rather than white with Thank you.
I think Mr. Timbre brought up the issue of neighbors being concerned about a tree that was on the line or next to them that might be hazardous. And this is not a press that issue shouldn't
Well, I believe it's completely separate issue. So the question then becomes, do we say nothing more about the treaty ordinance after we do this is this and I'm actually not I mean, I think that we have the option to say many things. And if we want to have a resolution, stating something about as trees like your neighbor's property, then we should act resolution states or hazard trees. Every property that just is this resolution. property line goes. I'm not exactly sure what what segment we want to voice for what I'm saying is, voice in this section does not preclude other sentiments, unless those other segments are dynamic, or this might be consistent with our
thinking. This is my
iPhone screen. How do you determine intent, whatever you the homeowner or the developer that you're trying to circumvent
well, and that is a good question. It's a difficult question, obviously. And so what the signatory proposed with regard to the same issue was at the front end, that you have more rigorous review prior to the issue with this proposal is back right. So, what you say is what you get a permit to cut down that that then die in hazardous tree the same way as you ever would. But now you have a building work or more specifically a soil service. Right. Now, if my intention of removing that tree ahead of time you started want to build something, I don't want that. So what is in my interest to present that intention correctly? Rather than having to go through a process of having a moratorium and needing to get removed, since I know I want to do construction, I would simply say I want to remove this trigger person instruction. Right? So you don't know someone's intent. You know, someone's provided someone with sinister intentions. A huge incentive to correct a mistake. Does that makes sense? This gentleman's got that number but
more so so so we're trying to bet
yes, we're trying to progress these gauges.
Is this does the city arborist not serve as that final stage game are they just
so Seamus arbors now does in fact serve and doesn't do her job?
So you're saying that they're just so busy or whatever, a lot of bureaucracy
they have a huge incentive to sign off on this. So
Mr. Slender, I have the same question you did during the committee meeting? How can professional people sometimes also, how can we push the opinion text of the city arborist and assume that everyone is moving forward with the various themes? And so this version of the resolution is kind of compromised to that because my biggest concern was adding an undue expense to homeowners that are trying to improve their homes, who actually did have a dead dog dying of disease tree with some sort of soil surface and having to wait a year or whatever the moratorium was in order to to improve their homes, when in fact, they didn't have that circumstance. They weren't serious. And then and they should incur into costs for going throughout the right procedure. And so this allows people on the back end, if a question arises to go for the tree commission to say this was a dead dying diseased or hazardous tree. This is the proof and we want from there and if there is some other cost of her being able to go for that permission to apply for the I forgot the name of the fund that's available. In order to get back cover instead of calling the shots. Institute
Mr. Rob? Standard, and I had questions about the hazardous trade on probably has to do with this property. I don't see this addressing that particular yet, but I don't see it. Pivoting anything that type of action so I I don't see many rappers for where
to go to. We have gotten confused. Is a good way to go. Reveal the treatment, rather than to read or you were under moratorium.
Sorry, I misstated allowed API calls on the legacy counselor to amend the language of section 131 C to include a moratorium on the issues of land disturbance permit on a site that interferes efficiency or interfere with DDH trees that are living and deemed to be either dying or hazardous from that site. additional provisions should be added to this amendment. While the property for determining or for a nonprofit an arborist site partner with the relevant trees immediately after the turtles they were in fact dying or hazardous for risk termination is subsequently upheld by the Treaty conservation commission based on evidence of their condition. Like in for me, the Africa rule, in this case, I treat is bound to have been died or hazardous actors removal any associated costs associated with arbors post assessment of trees, tree trust, moratorium should determine the property inspections are conducted it turns out it was it would be a matter of
elimination treatment compensation
doesn't specifically say if based on the amount of the
country that applies to citizens
as well as yes, we will treat them
it's just a question. Do we know for a fact now that the training recommends fine. They aren't making these kinds of restorations or are we proposing that this restoration because the process itself is definitely
use that trust fund for associated purposes. I'm not sure what the current status of the ball is because the the rewrite of the two origins has been ongoing for more than a decade has not been going on okay. So what we are based upon
there, which is okay, if there is pure incomplete just making this resolution is to be proposing then that money comes out of an existing font. So with this, they're very,
very not be money involved. But generally speaking, you could you could get the word very removed. If you felt obliged to spend money by hiring garbage determination and that determination, supportive of the position then you should not have to spend that money out of your pocket and this was again part of the question of not wanting to place undue burden on
home. I guess my my thinking is it's and it's already there, and this process is already in place. And we have additional concepts that we need to be able to make this happen elsewhere for that. We'll talk about that as we get
ready to go I mean again, it comes back to the question, you know, is this the one and only change the tree ordinance that we would ever call for it? Not quite answer, but this is calling for a particular change in tree ordinance. We have others
just drowning in one of us. One boy please forgive me. Please forgive me, Mr. Brown. I saw your hand up really and Mr. Dawes, but they didn't put you down when I called on Mr. I thought you might apologize.
Yeah. I appreciate the compensation discussion. However, when did for me this overwhelming divide the body work this motion, and it was brought back in the fetal position. So with that being said, I think we'd call it
I'll call it. Okay. Now, you understand what calling the question means. Right. Is one or both on entering the debate? Yes. Is there a second on that? Second, that second two terms? Yes, it takes two thirds as
well. Okay. All right. So we have a motion on the board called question and we have a second to that motion. So let's go through it as a roll call vote. Mr. Brown
now, Mr. Harmon, this sculpture see Mr. Penny Yes. Mr. Taylor say Mr. And Mrs. Smith I've seen Mr. Hunter. Mr. tuba. Mr. dores here. Mr. Ross. Miss flowers saying Mr. Friend, Mr. Jones, Mr. Excuse me, Cory. I'm sorry miss Wynn. Alright, abstain and Mr. Epstein? Yes.
Six years,
six lo 16. Alright, so
I didn't have we had to be carried by two thirds to settle down the split of the bed.
It's not that we should fail. So do we have any other questions about this topic?
So the essence of that by some way you can get hurt if you're willing to wait to hear maybe cut it down. No, no. No interference. Basically. You get several ways but if you want to have a tree
and build something, you can get it permitted as she gave me with two years ago. Or you can permit SDKs tree get the moratorium and or get permitted as treating for construction. Cut down three buildings.
Those are right behind you're saying that the developers were somehow invading the process and that would be one tree removing a build attendant cutting in half and realizing there was no debt?
Well, I think they were I mean,
if there's no if it turns out it was a problem, and I haven't I haven't reversed for Harper's
entries and went into movies that were alleged to be dead dog hazards on my neighbor arbors to say
so much. All right, listening on this Joey's
last statement, I promise. Just want to clarify again, my position on this regarding this resolution is was a compromise. But part of my issue with the resolution is that we have a lot of opinion in here based upon anecdotal information. And so I was trying to be gained the fact that everyone the resident and developer in the city arborist are considered to be bad actors and have some sort of a personal gain and nefarious intent and wanting to establish the fact that we need to have resolutions coming out of committee based upon facts based upon actual current processes, and actually be able to address city wide needs and not just the needs of individual MPOs. So this was a compromise is not the best. Not saying whether I'm for it or against it, but just give me some context for how it got to this point, even to this point. All right.
All right. You've heard the discussion on the resolution. Resolution, of course comes out of committee does not need a second. So let's go ahead and take a vote on the resolution. Mr. Brown Yes. Mr. Martin. I spoke to Scott Chesky.
She's think she was throwing paper I presume
you abstain. All right. Mr. Penny. I'm standing. Mr. Taylor. state of state. Mr. Thurman. ODF evodia Is Mr. Slim. No, no, Mr. Hunter, Mr.
Tumor qualifying and
Mr. Chandler, you just have to vote sweet. No. All right, Mr. Dodds, though, Mr. Ross. I
don't know what you're shooting for.
I miss flowers. Mr. Friend. Yeah. It's challenges
this is a hard one
we have stayed our path. Alright, Miss. Is Yes. Yes. Miss Glover is yes. I'm going to abstain. Mr. Kessler abstain.
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We got a commentary question right use of USA
I make the motion that Mr.
Motion. Send this back to the committee for review. And reconsideration. Do I get a second on that? All right, Mr. Chairman a second. And I'm just I'm just going to ask all those in favor of sending it back to me. Please raise your knee. Okay, so we're going to do it again. Let's go around the table Mr. Yes, it's too hard to ski Mr. Penny. No. Mr. Taylor, steady state Mr. And Mrs. Yes, Mr. Hunter, Mr. Mr. Dodds State, Mr. Moss. No, Miss flowers. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Glover. I will vote yes, Mr. Kessel state
was six years eight No. Four. So we should get into that too.
All right, moving right along.
Have any members of our board and task force when he's in Air Force Mr. Ross? The every
move wanted to let everyone know that could be scheduled change from July. We will be meeting coming up as well as the following Tuesday the 25th
at 25th
Back to Back ensure that we started last week. It was
okay. And that's what I was saying.
I said like we have to come back. Okay.
If you set it up tonight, make sure you come down to the LRP wants to hear about your license Review Board wants to hear from you wants to hear your idea right? But they also want you to understand that the alcohol ordinances are weak and vapor advocate for the most part. And so we need justified reasons to deny it. And we do need to hear from the representative constituency when there's a recommended adoption. And that concludes my report. Thanks for
your question. Miss Jones coming Mr.
Not sure I'm not sure that it was germane to this section for ensuring the public's safety commission. Do you know still intact
I don't know. I try to look at your website and see whether because you are appointed to that position. Is the fact that you're asking me so my concern I was trying to find information I'm here yesterday probably need to force the human management who's going to the companies and to the people that we've had appointed to the commission to the people in those meetings, not receiving correspondence about meetings or anything like that.
But we have not been able to say I hadn't received my phone
I will get information and email exclusively. Thank you just made okay.
Are you are you planning to set
the grounds for denial says Surely that
up your bills online. There are even more LRP
with finances. If
that's what you were asking
me that would be nice.
One side, every situation that's champion is different. So subtly the device that for the most part to deny that there has to be an ethical code otherwise the cities the last
question is,
is it possible that the LRC is here for another meeting, but there will be some sort of notice
to us so that we said that they actually wasn't notice. Which you know, LRB rabcat silence and so the notice was given last
Are you saying there was not an email or the public announcement was in the past? Yes, so if we have an email from the board stating that your meeting is not going to happen as normally scheduled so we can notify you so that we don't have people come in all different parts, you know, realizing their community shelter.
And I think that responsibility causes I believe they were involved or rescheduled.
Think most important that I do say that there has to be representation from the interviewer notwithstanding any any rationalities embedded asserted in the response to the applicant. There also has to be representation.
Well, there shouldn't be. It shouldn't be happening. I mean, we're gonna look at all the facts. Yeah, but we need representation on the community because
ultimately, that community
well, it doesn't matter. It was a matter of denial. That is we need to hear from that community as to why they arrived.
Speaking speaking on Saturday.
What I was trying to ask me,
when we are Indian communities, 1% zoning applications. They are always listed in the public periods. When we're setting them up, the applications are not and so other than sort of periodically going to the website to see is my case on the LRVs agenda this month or next week or whatever it is. Is there some way that we can get better notification? That's your question. No, no, we used to be email LRU agendas you don't want to our I brought that up several meetings ago. Okay. Yeah, they used to think they were sending out ERP accounts
for a while.
And then somebody talks to me again and he said,
Yes, so I was
forwarding. A year later, just add the chairs to yours to use force. So that happens to be the middle of there were like two times that I've forgotten about terrible. Well ask them to add chairs. So that they can get it directly from a paid meeting, sorry. And I when I checked, I saw that they had to do all the chairs that have been added to the list. And obviously check again because I haven't actually seen whatever it was. I will look right now and I will follow up on that. Okay. So the
question for Terry. In your packets, I'm assuming that you get all three applications all information. Does that include the entropy concerns more than the care side
goes to one page?
So I'm putting the reasons for our denial on that page. Sometimes it's a
pretty small type, wanting to
see it, see it?
Yeah, we do see a Debian and is installed full but we're down there in the hearing itself. Got down who desperately wants this license? All we have is a state. That doesn't give us a lot
and speaking of the LRB on that topic at hand tech three, as you know, that we're doing over the past year. We finally did wrap up this week and the reason is to be so callous Council processes. This morning Smith is here with us this morning. This year. I'm sorry putting it into you. He and She has put us on a 10 three and she has been the leading force in this process. Our appointee to the tech this case. He was the vice chair of the committee and it says we were having our final vote. This week. K is going to present to us on next month's meeting. Information on what was determined the continuation of the process. But since Miss Smith is here, I wanted to be very, very mindful that she has worked very, very hard starting clear before we come to the process, and I wanted to ask it she had to say
I'll leave it to Kay to give her updates and she has been your representative. I'm here to represent MTV with our new appointee, Michael Jordan who will join you next month for me. But I will say that a lot of the frustrations that have been discussed just now are addressed to the document is 30 pages and there's three of them. So I hope you'll find that your work was deliberate, intentional, thorough, and addresses a lot of your frustrations.
You know, physical
you want to remember if the US is appointed, of course was on Instagram, and her baby is going to be coming sometime within the next couple of months. And those of you who had an opportunity to talk talk to her about those are excited. She was so exciting for sufferers of babies, so she's
taking some time off so
do I have any other
here's the new reference when we share this
I'm not sure if it provides a weird or pays a lower tier because it's somewhat of a dispute between lots of clubs here at Macy VR in Serbia. She tried to get into some negotiations with
Chef and
as a result, we're still at a notice to the disadvantages of the citizens of Atlanta. We are pursuant to the ordinance required to investigate those and being such things as allegations of misconduct is a basic direction compasses, so anyone that's anywhere with dogs and the mayor, to the city attorney because at this point we're at an impasse. We're not quite certain for this county sheriff infuses the love history into the jail over 15 years to interview inmates. That is really no substitute.
My question was founded in Georgia is no longer here, who's spearheading that effort to push back on sharing one's decision?
Right now we're off for the month of August. We are going to visit process of forming our bylaws. The vice chair should also take this up private appointment, but we're still pretty much live with staff members are executive director is in correspondence. Last week, another letter to share with him a lot with the requests that he's done. Basically review you've given them now additional 10 days. And I think our next step from what I'm understanding is to speak to the city attorney and city council.
All right, Mr. Chairman,
I have no dog in this fight. I have noticed last night on the news that the sheriff's department is so mad box within the Fulton County Jail witness have anything to do with it or is it just a string refusal that I don't have?
Thankfully, frankly, for the last 12 to 15 years, this is the process we have a contact at the sheriff's office. I think it's sorry to bring in investigators sin in advance, maybe sit in advance and get a list of the inmates to be interviewed. We subsequently received from Sergeant Burnett and time and location that is the process has been in place for 12 Plus.
points or more. I think that I think that all this information was passed by want to raise money
as well. I don't know whether we have an official ask me that we have discussed this briefly before, but we did not make any decisions as to the position that he wanted to consider in this situation.
Chair we did our last meeting. There wasn't a telephone about organized support, and I believe there was a request that everyone to provide support whether this weekend I think we didn't start out.
Honestly, I don't remember they don't have to go back and check that history. I'm not saying we did. Just don't but right now it says we actually did for the task force with the boards. Does anybody have comments on this particular issue?
It seems like an item that we probably shouldn't be considered a resolution on but it also seems like a matter that we should be considering the resolution out of our Republic safety committee arm and I noticed that that is still a big
position today many doesn't meet.
So I guess my question is, do we want to try and revitalize that committee or want to refer it to another entity because I don't see us being able to move anything on the floor? Without workshopping in the comments. It seems like you're ready to take a stab
I will be happy to work with the Public Safety Committee to draft resolution but there is no public safety at work, which is certainly the issue. I think
you can do much better.
There are some objections to that process. And our very last meeting, as you may recall, is very short.
And again, we're putting it out to you all we need a public safety committee chair. Fortunately, we just feel the utilities to the physician and Mr. Hunter volunteer for them. But we still need a public safety committee. And as I said earlier that content the city next week and find out exactly what's happening with the Public Safety Commission because our public safety committee chair is supposed to sit on that condition that we have I think two or three other mornings Mr. tumor was experiencing was twisted he is asked to be sent and it is at least at least here errors and all that so yeah. Yes, sir.
Good. We would we are going to be in order and make a motion for a chair many of these chair
materials that he has, we could ask the executive committee to get your comment Mr. Turner, sorry,
potential. But a potential alternative goes to a former cop.
He has to handle this.
Now you ask Would it be appropriate to take please go ahead.
I'd like to make a motion at speed. Thank you. I would like to make the motion that it have executive committee be the committee that handles the resolution regarding the Atlanta citizen review board. And Fulton County Jail letter being the committee that handles the writing of letter and bring it forth to you Yeah, exactly what's looked at you. I would like to make the motion that a PAP executive committee handle the writing of the resolution regarding ALC citizens review board letter to have about
you second, Mr. Hunter. Okay. Thank you. All right. The motion has probably been and secondly we will take the vote. Other questions about the motion
to sit as they are asking what to do with the urgency of that as quickly as possible because the body because those things are like really detailed and that is
outside to this motion. But admittedly, we had a discussion on this last month as it possibly can on the box in that regard. And we can talk communication there's so many great men out there. That was the second word that they are saying CRP, which makes a speech that says that there's a loss of life allowance that needs to be given. And if we are in agreement, have been drafted to get that out of the city that we are in agreement is important. We don't need to do a committee wait three months. We made that much last week to bring it back in amongst the house support. And that is a good sign that we want to let out support to ecrb and we stand for that both the past as well as the body, the body paragraphs that
were mentioned on that floor so definitely that well if
this will expedite things and make it quicker and then I will rescind my motion. Motion already been
made secretary.
Body you can't really know what we're watching. So we can try to do what Rashid is saying is not inappropriate to the motion is awful. I would like to amend my motion to reflect Mr machine on tears. The letter is
so so if if your motion is to manage that and require a second
so I would like to make a motion to amend that we said about support to the ACR 37 wants to support the process. That's already been started continues. As I said I except that doesn't mean I can't mention
he can imagine going on for medication, medical stuff that we can substitute motion. Just a great process.
Let me let me reiterate to make sure that we everybody's understanding what we're actually saying. Your amended motion is then your amendment
because you wrote money
No. It's just me everybody.
Can we just know the current milestone and a big problem?
Okay, that's fine. That's what everybody wants to do.
Okay, can we do that?
Is it okay for us to Okay, okay. All right.
So, so far we are based on motion detection, we are going to discuss which is that I am uncomfortable with the process that we quite often like to be free to do something right and
what happens is, it doesn't get written for, for
free so the reason why I don't support what Christina said, it's not because I don't support the senator, but rather because I would like to vote on something in writing and I can see not a concept or something
isn't possible, then we can ask the second committee in the next well, not the next executive committee meeting because that takes us into another month. Oh, shoot, I just want somebody to draft the letter and then we get into effect what should we do? Yes.
There was a big part of the motion was saying this. And the President Trump's defense secretary
or an alternative
to that is
called endorse or support a letter like that. Forget the letter targeted voting somebody doors or support or letter that says so the respondents body simply says
the letter advisory board voted to support the attached ordinance whatever.
This is not America.
We had fun with this. The rule right now. was extremely honest
with you I think we discussed this before. Not right before us and they said some members may not see. So why don't we do this? Why don't I send out that letter from and we are going to have to send it back out to him his daughter if that is the way to do that's what we're going to be voting on why?
By the way.
We can have a general rule of getting off the body okay. So what is your actual recommendation that close see what
Mr. Hunter is sitting to this other room, the actual better from the acrp was she's gonna get those printed out and pass them out. Then we can actually vote on it. Once we get those in hand. Okay. On that, do I have any other board the task force? Seeing none, we'll move on. To the committee towards the
Bylaws Committee is coming Thursday, July 28. At 6pm here at St. Paul I believe the conference suite 1450 On the first floor. We will send out for verification of that email mistake on the website as well our web conference
right so we will get that information out to everyone. But we will be discussing whatever the outcome of our discussion on admission is during the strategic planning update. Later in this meeting, as well as the nutritionist we discussed.
Thank you, district for Hardeman County and in addition what goes on procedures ladies
report writing
can be half as strong.
Committee on a met met this morning. No actions got to like any discussion regarding the bylaws of my house. meeting as well as where the swearing in elected officers of this body. This base and effective July 5 was declared beautiful every day in the city of Atlanta. We're servicing it as leader of MPI.
Of course, my announcement, community engagement playbook on July 29. The next meeting is August 19. I believe it is that Al renogy or city council chambers.
Thank you so much. transportation's when,
as we know. Mr. Clapper, this was the last one for the cake. And he's brand new and he's making the circuit he's show he's appeared on several talk shows I have reached out to his office and as I said last month I pretty much a convenient way to me was previously in this role and this sent me some documents that he'll tell you how difficult it is to reach out to most even if they have a chair name doesn't necessarily have any transportation meaning what is up what Mr. Cabinets is offering. They will This office will be periodically meeting meeting on all of the new initiatives within the next 60 to 90 days. It is going to allow that I'm able to attend those meetings. What I am hoping will come out of those meetings is firsthand knowledge of what initiatives are that are making a name for this level of her last name and their work efficiency and role of community engagement and there were two others. The thrust of it is he's going to do a deeper dive into those initiatives, hopefully with with with the belief that I'm going to be able to reach out to all of the interviews under a pat what ever those initiatives are in leisure as a word and how what what enough I've submitted to him says that they do absolutely dream that they previously in video one was able to lay it out I think a broader overview of all of the transportation issues, but we attend to meet. I think it is that the first meeting is scheduled for the 30th of August. And that that then maybe we're going to come out of that meeting hopefully with a portable roadmap as to how we what the issues are overwhelming transportation issues and their norms what I've said and then more narrowly focused on the directly it's like a bonus thing most recently there's a pot of money on the wish list of sidewalk is crosswalks that was recently submitted to our council people, I think the deadline in August of 123. Many of you dissipate dissipated and that deadline to mitigate calls. Were you able to submit that all employee was dismissed. It was last
but not
least she's currently for many of you at home or receive from yourself so people request for a whisk this.
It was like let's
get some show hands who will see that. So so
that should be disseminated. Was that rather well the council persons obviously did not
seek help. I suspected at that point. They
did money set aside projects, individual counseling, and
so they have individual counselors who show up in their communities probably every
witness is 35 to 30. So
30 that they were pushing.
So that's the cost of that pot of money or get up I think that was
a discretionary discretionary
transportation issues so they want to know anything about the transportation index whenever you want to do something or do something cool he actually contacted
and they have to have a bad rap on
Fox.
News. US senate is trying to avoid these kind of deadlines as it appears at least a third of this group are not solicited and dusted missed out on a great opportunity. Why communities have already heard back from counsel prior to the summit indication that someday he's gonna be satisfied. You have to say that you do
have to prepare to do different roles and succeed in their area. There hasn't been any true capital improvement over the years. So there was some money to do some matching money. I came up to a beauty balance or county district at eight Congressi and then how they would notify DL T HBot. Was that was recommended by counselors. Some already happened and they know that some you know reached out but if you look at the transition, meaning they call upon this specifically in terms of with when he came on how much it was how much each Township, Michigan.
Thank you. Thank you. For the question of vacation to public safety courses vegan education is vegan utilities Mr. Hunter was just appointed so I know he hasn't had a chance to really get started. And it's pretty much already discussed things that were discussed at the executive VP. And we're gonna go right now into our strategic planning update the presentation on that. Today we're discussing rules of engagement and the APEC mission. Our next phase is committees. And we want to have to make some adjustments and changes in our committee. So when we start working on this, I want to ask that you all please please participate in this and if they send you questions, please take time to answer those questions because we do have some changes that need to make. So. Yeah, so we're going to go ahead and go right into the strategic planning process
okay.
All right. So that's especially when you need to defend your meeting. You will not need to clip it on my map. I'm going to send your money is on top of Express trade and the account manager to help nurture money so she should have a number of documentation. as kind of a reminder, the timeline that we're working from is what you've all adopted. From the strategic planning report for May and June that you've worked on reviving Ahab's role reviewing and updating the mission and vision and establishing a board Code of Conduct submission or mutual respect since we were brought into this in May or June or whatever it was for a month behind. So we have not completed those tasks yet. But with your help, we can stay on target and catch up and get that done. So you should have it in front of you. Okay, you should have the tracks that we've prepared for you, which is the mission and I'm sorry, you're talking slowing down sorry, but you should have the purpose, maybe your purpose and mission draft. And the format of that document think about the format of that document is that with as with everything else, we are showing you what you currently have, what we're proposing, and then, so that's what you have here is the current purpose and the proposed purpose, the current mission and the proposed mission. I will point out that in all of the work that we're doing to support y'all, we're doing our very best to incorporate recommendations that come from y'all. And recommendations from planning and keeping what you already have. So there's no intention to chop and get rid of and all of that the intent is to kind of protect the integrity or the the the concept, the content, but sometimes in other ways. So you'll notice that the proposed mission is much shorter. That's because we believe that the mission should be something that is memorizable. So it's a shorter mission, but it is to the point it covers what you have in your current mission. And it incorporates any feedback that we have received from y'all. The purpose is longer than what is current. And that's because several of us can we agree that the perfect should mirror what the code says Your purpose is. Just so for the rules of engagement and decorum business round number two, we distributed rap number one to you. Last month, we incorporated some feedback, we are having a serious printer issues. You'll see little lipstick marks on your paper there now lipstick marks is just from the printer. But the yellow I already pointed that out to tell you that the yellow one printer did not print properly. So I don't have the highlighted versions. So if you will allow. I'm going to tell you exactly what was changed on the rules of engagement and you do have the feedback that we've received as well and receive feedback in writing advise members as well as phone calls that you don't have in front of you because everybody under the rules of engagement and general courtesies number one, number two and number four have been edited to incorporate your feedback. Number one has included being prepared to discuss the agenda items. Number two, is ensuring that you have experience and documenting sufficient time to pursue it a discussion with your employer. And number four is asking for you to avoid speaking as recognized by the presiding officer. I've been transparency and inclusion The only change was the number four this is a new item it says make efforts to overweight blindsiding other members of the board share any relevant information or materials as soon as available under strict form and protocol. The changes works in number five and number seven. Number five is avoid speaking on behalf of the board or giving the perception of speaking on behalf of the board. Number seven is members should regard voting as a duty and abstain infrequently and only when absolutely necessary. Yes, it's ironic. However we were asked to in the feedback we were asked to list reasons for abstaining. I took a stab at that and felt uncomfortable because it felt limited and restricted. So instead of preparing a list of reasons that you should have stayed, we just weren't in it to encourage you to abstain infrequently and only if it's absolutely necessary. I will tell you, this board often abstain well this board abstains very frequently. Members of this board have seen frequently and it is often for it often appears to be due to a lack of preparation or lack of understanding of what the item is for lack of cetera. So you should be making that very sparingly and keep in mind that you have a duty as a member of the board. We have to keep the vote on behalf during number two under relationships. This new incident make an effort to build relationships with other members to mutually share experiences and expertise. And number one under efficiency was edited to add staying on topic and introducing all the those issues that align with the board's purpose and mission and are within the board's purview. And this of course speaks to your use of time. You don't want to be spending time on something that isn't even repeating. So that is that for your review for this month, which we will cover next month. It will be motivation to the board composition is structured on a timeline that's under July and August. The tasks were to define the structure define the level of interest at an executive board positions to find your committee structures and roles and responsibilities, etc. You'll find that here. There are three categories on the fourth page, our members board structure and the committee. This is just the references so this is for your review so that when we get your feedback we know what we're gathering feedback for you. This always tells you what currently exists no proposals are on this document is what currently exists and where it's coming from. And last but not least, oh, a survey. That's the last thing so you'll receive that. The team is finalizing the survey that we talked about last month, or Tuesday or no later things to say you should receive from us a either as a quote Yes, you'll receive an email with any updated documents include the invitation to take the survey either by phone or by paper.
Sorry I
was just trying to get clarification in terms of how we went to the vote on these. And next month we started on the task of committee so we'll be into the I guess this really should have been July and August. So the question is, how are we going to do something nice by completion of each task or do you wish to eliminate these by us the entire package is
suggestions for for it
are going to show you that rapid fire
it could be at any point at least everyone's feedback
in the interest of time and efficiency. I would recommend reviewing it to make sure that you're fine with that I will tell you this. The feedback that we got out of this was almost entirely already there. So we just reworded some things and the things that I read out loud to me were the things that can add a filter to that but everything else was almost already there was one item and when we consider that that was a list of logical fallacies associations are provided as a separate document. I don't think it's important, I don't think follow the rules of engagement. So we'll add that as a separate separate
duty and get the rest
of your report.
We already have that. Here are that one that can move forward thinking making progress and move forward and not hold on to things for months and months that contain them for months and months and months. But actually take action but in contradiction to that. My second interest is that you don't feel rushed. I don't want anybody to feel like especially that play is shoving anything down your throat or or pressuring you to vote. Well, yes, those are my only two interests in this if you feel like it captures everything that it needs to capture the mind they're not bylaws are not code. They can be updated every time you need to what's updated as often as for
my reason I ask is we have about one committee meeting soon next week. And one of the things that we do need to finalize is the acceptance of our purpose and mission. So my question is, does anyone have any questions? Or recommended changes to the proposed purchase and the proposed mission as they understand the environment? Get seven
Yeah, I'm just looking at the top comment over here it says remove the detailed planning units. Are we sure that if we attempt to rewrite this purpose and condition that it acts as the charter free or it doesn't sometimes service just leave kind of together? You are sad again, we'll be observing the wrong thing. I was looking at the comments. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Oh, the feedback. Oh, okay. Okay. My question got that.
Okay. Anybody else have any suggestions for you, thank you.
purpose and mission as presenting a wall on dealing with post engagement.
Motion is that we adopt the purpose and mission statements states and we hold off on the rules of engagement and decorum around that it's okay, I'm sorry, I heard something. You're saying. Okay, that is the second problem. Second Bible is a two part question about the
purpose of admission.
To searching. Okay. All right. I guess, Mr. Hunter.
So, probably, I guess thing that I want to send. And the proposed mission is our efforts to make a reference to citizen participation. I think it's alluding to there, but important part of what we do and what we want to say only before we meet but we should always
and when you're proposing to put
to be part of the mission. I mean, directly in the position and also organization. I think that that needs to be a part of this so that's my thinking
so much. The only thing I know is in the current mission is in Southern Michigan. It says under current it says the mission of his voice shall be to facilities citizen participation through the neighborhood planning units. So you're saying that
can either be a direct reference, I don't think it should be just now. Today Live blendings because everyone thinks about this it is not at all that
we are calling anything cold sharp,
keeping it short. But covering everything would be amenable last in citizen participation in the city of Atlanta.
Okay, so, everybody with us? He's in the proposed mission. And lastly, we're there's neighborhoods, and her recommendation is that all families
the mission of the board is to advise the city of Atlanta on city wide matters that diligently advocate for neighborhood priorities and influence citizen participation in the city.
Yeah. That's what we're
presented with that.
We do that waste
is your mission to facilitators your mission to
influence?
People Okay, so Mr. Kessler is proposing striking the verbs and stating that we might have this world the mission of the board is to advise the city of Atlanta one city mind matters that affect livability, neighborhood priorities and citizen participation. Yes, once again, yes, one second so that I forget.
Same as the informants in the citizenry. One it's the city coming to us, the other citizens going to work
so I don't see that there's a parallel between influencing the city and planning games, neighborhoods and influences industry. What is the city's coming to the neighborhoods and how they interact with the other citizens with a game hashtag
The city says it's too different.
For me to be over time. Can I get a motion? From somebody quickly that we extend the meeting by 10 minutes so we can play our cake in a second? All right, all those in favor, please say aye. All those opposed, please say hi. Thank you. Alright, so moving student attendance questions that just
don't seem exactly the same. Questions. Actually,
I think it could work towards development, or what they showed us suggesting is some sort of language that speaks to mutual engagement, city engaging citizens and the citizens associations. So correct.
Now I understand
what you say about that. What's the
mission of the board is to advise the city of Atlanta on city wide matters that affects the ability neighborhood priorities
petition covers
the city or city my neighborhood priorities citizen participation, citizen participation and I actually especially, I see one of the
interview processes that sometimes the city will spend a lot of time with neighborhoods and sometimes they kind of
and they're a lot of the resolutions that
this body does. today are totally is that this body? attempts to influence how the city comes to communicate within the
use of science.
This is sitting
here because you can't engage the citizen group game
unless they know that there's something to be proud of
about the mission of the board
is to revive the city and then there was this one livability, neighborhood priorities, community engagement.
Nature and this has
been here
okay. So it's clear, we're not ready to vote on this thing, and we're not ready to vote.
We have to put your polish on. We do have we do have a motion but people
participation so I'll read it out again and just see if everybody feels comfortable with it or not.
The mission of the board is to revive the city of Atlanta. So think about what your mission actually is. What is the board endeavoring to do when you come together every month? What is the work that you're looking to do when we come together every month we try to accomplish the mission of the board is to advise the city of Atlanta on citywide matters that affect livability neighbor neighborhood priorities, community engagement and citizen participation
is so point
of order. There's a motion on the floor
if you don't mind the wording.
Fair was what everybody's watching just right final word of
advice.
So already memorized
the
mission of the board is
to advise the city of Atlanta on city wide matters that affect the viability neighborhood priorities, community engagement and citizen participation
emotionally before is that we moved on proposed purpose and mission and you've heard the revised mission statement. Hopefully they prefer the questions so we'll go ahead and take a roll call over this issue. Mr. Brown Do you Mr. Mr. Mr. Sculpture see Mr. Penny. Yes. Mr. Taylor? Yes. Mr. Thurmond? Yes. This is Mr. Winter. Mr. Toole. Mr. Dodds? Yes, Mr. Flowers? Yes. Miss Jones is over. Is Mr. Guest Yes. All right, Mr. auspost. Yes, thank you.
15 years, one note in one abstention. So That motion passes. All right. We are officially out of time. Thank you, sir.
That was resolution 66 siblings well that fails.
There it
is. Six no six abstentions.
They were checking to
see which should be determined that motion fails over COVID 666.
Saying that there was a question of whether or not the President would have to go to break besides the President decided
to work
with Jeremy Okay. Can I get a thank you so very much. Thank you all for being here. Have a wonderful evening. Good to see you again here next month.
