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Detroit City Council, Formal Session
Unknown Speaker
00:00morality,
Speaker 1
00:01a city where we share our thoughts and concerns and respect our differences. A city where we give everyone a little respect, I say respects and protects the least among us, the children, the elderly, the poor, the homeless city where we do justice, love, mercy, walk humbly with our God. This is our prayer and your name we pray. Amen.
President Sheffield
00:26Amen. Yes. What a mighty prayer. That was Reverend white. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
00:31Bless you. God bless you. God bless you.
President Sheffield
00:34God bless you as well. All right, if you are here and you would like to make public comment, please make sure that you raise your hand at this time as we will be cutting off our public comment after the presentation this morning. Before we move forward with our land value tax update, we would like to take a moment to do a special presentation we have Miss Rhonda Walker who has joined us Let's give her a round of applause. And celebrating her 20 year for her girls into women Foundation. They will be having their 20th anniversary. Think this Sunday coming up and we wanted to take the time to honor you and the work that you're doing. Let me first just say personally, I've known you since a young girl. I have always admire you. You have always inspired me and I was just telling you in the bag. I remember you coming to my father's church. I probably maybe was in high school at the time and I looked up and she was in the pulpit. And as we talked I guess that that you did end up giving the word. But you left some very important messages in a mark on me in my heart about confidence and perseverance and the things that you've overcome. And so I've always admire you and just appreciate the work that you do for young women throughout this entire city. So it is my honor to be able to present to you a testimonial resolution and this is for the girls into women foundation 20th anniversary and I will just read some of what it states whereas the Rhonda Walker Foundation has dedicated two decades to providing invaluable support and guidance to inner city girls in Detroit, empowering them to thrive in their personal and academic lives. Whereas Rhonda Walker's foundation is celebrating 20 years of empowering any city girls towards becoming strong, confident, successful, immoral leaders through their award winning five year girls into women's program. The Rhonda Walker's foundation girls into women's program has consistently demonstrated its commitment to the holistic development of young girls through its five core pillar program, college prep, career development, Personal Development, Health and Wellness, community outreach and cultural awareness and mentoring. The foundation's impactful initiatives under these pillars such as the year round tutoring, college tours, mentoring, career planning, fitness programs, community service projects, cultural experiences, and the provision of scholarships has positively shaped the lives of hundreds of inner city teen girls, fostering leadership, empowerment and academic achievement whereas the Wanda walk Walker Foundation has consistently exhibited excellence and dedication in its mission, enriching the lives of Detroit's youth, contributing to the growth of future leaders in our community. Since its founding in 2003, Rhonda Walker's Foundation has impacted the lives of hundreds of inner city girls, maintaining an average of 65 at risk teens enrolled in his girls into women program. The impact of his five year core program is profound, having graduated 17 classes have empowered future leaders and awarded nearly $500,000 in scholarships to graduating seniors. Now there'll be it resolved that on this day Council President Mary Sheffield and the entire Detroit City Council hereby extend our congratulations to the Rhonda Walker foundation on reaching this remarkable milestone. We recognize and appreciate the foundation's unwavering commitment to the betterment of young girls lives in the city of Detroit and metropolitan area. be it further resolved that we join in celebrating 20 years of the RONDO Walker foundation applauding their outstanding achievements and profound impact on our community. We express our gratitude for your dedication to nurturing the potential of inner city girls. instilling confidence and shaping future leaders. Congratulation. And the floor is yours Miss Walker, if you would like to say anything or
Speaker 2
04:56thank you so very much. I do remember that day when I spoke at your father's church and now I can't lie and say we're about the same age. Because you were in high school. But your family and you are certainly inspirations to me as well because of the work that we do to help better our community and that's what the Rhonda Walker foundation is all about. And I am honored to be standing here having 20 years under my belt of community service for this Detroit community and serving teen girls. I thank you for your support. And I thank you so much for this incredible acknowledge of a milestone that we are deeply proud of. And I will continue to work I will continue to do what I can to help to strengthen and empower teen girls in the city. This 20th anniversary and what we are planning with a capital campaign and a new brand and a lot of exciting things for the future is to expand our reach and be able to serve more youth in this community. So thank you all so much for this opportunity.
President Sheffield
05:54Congratulations. And then dried up Miss Walker. Did you want to recognize the member of your board?
Speaker 2
06:00Yes, this is my CEO who is here result of Villanova Johnson. She has 35 years of nonprofit and community service experience and we're very fortunate to have her as our leader for the Rhonda Walker foundation. For the past four years. Thank you for Zelda.
President Sheffield
06:19Thank you gratulations and if there are no additional comments or Yep, comments, okay, Councilmember Callaway? Yes,
Unknown Speaker
06:28thank you Madam Chair and good morning Sarwar. Good
Unknown Speaker
06:30morning.
Speaker 3
06:32Congratulations on your 20th anniversary and we're so proud of the work that you do. You are continuing to impact the lives of our young young girls and we know that you will leave not one girl behind not one girl will be left behind in the city because of your efforts. So congratulations again and keep up the good work.
Unknown Speaker
06:51Thank you so much, sir.
President Sheffield
06:54Thank you and one to recognize your sister to Miss Gamble. Yeah. Outstanding photographer. We can give her a run class. She's
Speaker 2
07:03also a member of the Board of Directors of the Rhonda Walker Foundation Board of Directors and yes she is but also always by my side and
President Sheffield
07:12I said you too. All right. Well, we, again, just thank you for all the work that you do. We're going to come down to federal pay into a picture with you. Yes. And again, congratulations on this huge milestone. Thank you
Unknown Speaker
07:22thank you so much.
President Sheffield
09:08All right. Thank you all for that and we will now proceed with our agenda. We're going to cut off public comment as well and move to our first discussion this morning. We have a land value tax update and those who are here can join us at the podium.
President Sheffield
09:42And if you can just state your name and title and then whenever you're ready to proceed the floor is yours. Just make sure your microphone is on. Press the bottom Mr. Right. Yep, there you go.
Speaker 4
09:54All right. Thank you very much. My name is Jay rising. I'm the CFO I have with me Alan horn sees assessor given Bay indices debt manager. Thank you for the opportunity to be here. Council president had asked if we would come this morning before full council and give a more high level preliminary review of the land value tax and the status of the legislation that's been proposed in Lansing. This isn't a deep dive. I've done a presentation which be able to follow along and we have copies of which you may have seen before it's been used in many of the council districts and present and to community members. And we continue to do those presentations that almost every week to community groups. But what I'd like to talk about is really,
President Sheffield
10:43just really quick is kind of hard to hear you so you might have to talk a little bit more into them. Okay,
Speaker 4
10:47thank you very much for that. What I'd like to talk about this morning is is the reasons why we felt that this proposal is necessary what the objectives of the proposal proposal are and some of the basic underpinnings of how it will work. So as you know, if we've always always experienced this cities in the states property tax system, which is 150 years old this year, has created for Detroit some barriers to entry for businesses and individuals seeking to move to the city just by the the high property tax rates we have as compared to surrounding areas just as just not the city's raid. It's a accumulation of all taxing jurisdictions in the city. It's a system that unfortunately, rewards blight. It also produces a higher foreclosure rate because of taxes on the home itself rather than just purely on the land. But the two things I really wanted to focus on the two slides that you've likely seen before, or the fact that the property values the wealth of most people have in their have. It's based on their the value of their home, their homes. And in Detroit that the second slide difficulties advance forward. Yo goes, that one's controlling the slides they have shows that in Detroit because of our tax rate the same home is substantially less than value that would be in Royal Oak, or Grand Rapids. Up to a 90
President Sheffield
12:16people are trying to listen they can't really hear you, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4
12:19up 
to a 90,000 to 75,000 90,000 $70,000 difference. The next slide also shows another consequence is that it's very inexpensive. To acquire and hold, of course acquiring whole property for speculative purposes, having no plans to develop at property just hoping development may come in just 10 owners hold 20 2500 properties vacant properties in the city. So seeking to kind of reform really the practices that have kind of led to blight and lower values of the city. The objectives the Lambay tax as shown in the next slide. Were to provide first symmetrical residential relief of a Pennsylvania model which is the model which is somewhat very different with what we're proposing adopted this a number of years ago, but what they did was add more taxes on top of the existing tax base. It did not provide tax relief or substitute the tax system but for land value tax instead it just added another type of system of taxation called split tax layer on top of it. What we're trying to do here is just provide tax rates across the board. The homeowners in the city, Rossmann and incentivize capital investment, and property repairs increase the home values, as I said, and eliminate the fiscal cliff that you see for homeowners developers who are reliant upon abatements Like any Zs or ifds or CFTs in order to develop property in the city. We think these things that disincentivize blight and speculation which is which has caused a lot of vacant property in the setting. So what we've done is in the next slide shows that what we're proposing is a simple concept exemption of up to 14 mils of what the proposal would be for the mayor and replace that without tax on land at the equivalent value to produce the same income and 19 in 2023 values that would be 180 mils but it's only on land. So it's somewhat of a tax shift from a taxation on your farm your homes and your improvements to a taxation on the land. Give you an example of how the current system works for home with 80,000 sets valuation or true cash value which will be have a taxable value of 40,000 If it was just purchased in the SCP a 40,000 also and let's say that home has in the next slide has 39,000 of improvements and $1,000 of land value, which is about a fairly average split between land and improvement values for homesteads in the city. Current taxes tax the land and the improvements the same. So we have 68 mills are currently under current levies that 39,000 would be taxed at 68 Mills for a tax bill of 2652. The $1,000 will be taxed at 68 Mills for tax bills $68 for a total of 2720. That's our current system land improvements taxed at the same time, same way. What we're proposing is to reduce the tax on improvements from 68 to 454 mills that will lower tax on the profit portion of the property. By $546. The land however, would go up to 180 mils only in the $1,000 or two and a half percent of the property value, the taxable value. That would increase it by $104 on the land net that's a $442 tax cut for that piece. of property and 97% of the properties in the city of Detroit. See that tax cut the other 3% which are located in areas with high have high land values or have a large portion of the property as land we've we've protected as under a 
credit so that no homeowner can see their taxes go up over what would have otherwise been, but 97 will see a tax decrease. The next slide kind of tries to show so where does this leave us and where do we come from in terms of our tax burden in the city. So right now in the neighboring cities, we're we're the seventh highest median tax bill at 6700. That would lower our medium rate to about 5596 or about about 1212 for the region. In the state. We're number one of the largest cities in the state. It would lower us to be below them below Flint and just above Dearborn of the largest cities in the state and overall it's a 70 or 70% average cut. So I talked a little bit in the next slide. I've already talked a little bit about the homestead exemption or credit to make sure that no homeowner pays any more taxes they would have otherwise. We've also really understood that we need some type of transitional period for people build substantially on the properties. So we've provided a credit which says that if you have improved your property by at least 40% of its value, so that I built something on my property that equals 40% of the total tax value of my property. I built something substantial on the property, your taxes increase would be capped at 20% or $50,000. That whatever's whatever's lesser. So, that property for which that is not vacant, that it has property with some something built on at least 40% of the value of the total property would have a cap on their property taxes 20% We'd also recognize that there's a lot of businesses in the city which are required to have zone 
parking. It's the zoning requirements for the business. Sometimes it's part of their parcel. Sometimes it's across the alleyway or the street they own it as a separate parcel. We didn't want to care about that. We said if you have a business which you have parked in under common ownership, whether it's on the same parcel or adjacent parcels or your your property, we will not tax have a tax increase due to that parking That way it won't be taxed at a higher reward. So we provided a credit to make sure that doesn't happen. Both your both the improvement credit and the homestead credit or automatic no application stuffing have to do. So let me kind of go through and under explain with that under basis. How we came up with 118 mils because it's a lot of confusion sometimes about what properties are you taxing? Are you arbitrary creating this rate? What we tried to do in the first year 2025. And of course we don't know the values, which is why I thought other than 25 so I'm using 23 values. We took the 14 Mills reduced it from the city's tax base is excellent the bad bookworm Levy. So the Edward levy in the city would go down to six Mills approximately levy overall within the city would go to under 54 Mills at 54 Mills is applied both to your home again as well as your improvements both to the improvements I mean the improvements as well as to the land. We then took the 14 mils and said well that produced for the city but for the city 6.1 approximately billion dollars of taxable value that produced $85 million in revenue is that $85 million to get the same dollars for that from the land I just divided into my land values and produce 180 mils. The proposal also says we can reimburse ourselves for the cost of the credits. On top of the $85 million. There's about $8 million values and credits so we represent the rate also. So if things take a second to talk about how the legislation provide for implementation, there's a series of steps council would be involved in. First, of course, we have to get the authorizing legislation legislation passed. This is not something any city can do right now. That's not something we could have done independent of the legislature's authorization. So Lansing is legislature when anything is considered considering this is before the full house today and would go to the Senate passed by the House. Once adopted, the mayor is required to request and recommend a land value tax to Council for approval. That recommendation or requests would tell you how many mils of the 20 would be transferred and converted into a levy tax. Presently the mayor's thinking that will be 14 mils and would make that recommendation. We don't know exactly the conversion rate because you have to know the 2025 levy taxable values to know that but for 2023 if it stayed the same, that would be 180 mills. This there also is a system of credits is optional, or the credits. You can provide those credits by council approval. So the mayor would recommend what he would like Council to approve those credits. And there's also a provision that says we could face this in over three years at a step what increase and, and that would be recommended whether the mayor would suggest council approval phase and right now the mayor's approach would be to have this going all once have the tax cuts have started the maximum levels
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to a 90,000 to 75,000 90,000 $70,000 difference. The next slide also shows another consequence is that it's very inexpensive. To acquire and hold, of course acquiring whole property for speculative purposes, having no plans to develop at property just hoping development may come in just 10 owners hold 20 2500 properties vacant properties in the city. So seeking to kind of reform really the practices that have kind of led to blight and lower values of the city. The objectives the Lambay tax as shown in the next slide. Were to provide first symmetrical residential relief of a Pennsylvania model which is the model which is somewhat very different with what we're proposing adopted this a number of years ago, but what they did was add more taxes on top of the existing tax base. It did not provide tax relief or substitute the tax system but for land value tax instead it just added another type of system of taxation called split tax layer on top of it. What we're trying to do here is just provide tax rates across the board. The homeowners in the city, Rossmann and incentivize capital investment, and property repairs increase the home values, as I said, and eliminate the fiscal cliff that you see for homeowners developers who are reliant upon abatements Like any Zs or ifds or CFTs in order to develop property in the city. We think these things that disincentivize blight and speculation which is which has caused a lot of vacant property in the setting. So what we've done is in the next slide shows that what we're proposing is a simple concept exemption of up to 14 mils of what the proposal would be for the mayor and replace that without tax on land at the equivalent value to produce the same income and 19 in 2023 values that would be 180 mils but it's only on land. So it's somewhat of a tax shift from a taxation on your farm your homes and your improvements to a taxation on the land. Give you an example of how the current system works for home with 80,000 sets valuation or true cash value which will be have a taxable value of 40,000 If it was just purchased in the SCP a 40,000 also and let's say that home has in the next slide has 39,000 of improvements and $1,000 of land value, which is about a fairly average split between land and improvement values for homesteads in the city. Current taxes tax the land and the improvements the same. So we have 68 mills are currently under current levies that 39,000 would be taxed at 68 Mills for a tax bill of 2652. The $1,000 will be taxed at 68 Mills for tax bills $68 for a total of 2720. That's our current system land improvements taxed at the same time, same way. What we're proposing is to reduce the tax on improvements from 68 to 454 mills that will lower tax on the profit portion of the property. By $546. The land however, would go up to 180 mils only in the $1,000 or two and a half percent of the property value, the taxable value. That would increase it by $104 on the land net that's a $442 tax cut for that piece. of property and 97% of the properties in the city of Detroit. See that tax cut the other 3% which are located in areas with high have high land values or have a large portion of the property as land we've we've protected as under a +1
credit so that no homeowner can see their taxes go up over what would have otherwise been, but 97 will see a tax decrease. The next slide kind of tries to show so where does this leave us and where do we come from in terms of our tax burden in the city. So right now in the neighboring cities, we're we're the seventh highest median tax bill at 6700. That would lower our medium rate to about 5596 or about about 1212 for the region. In the state. We're number one of the largest cities in the state. It would lower us to be below them below Flint and just above Dearborn of the largest cities in the state and overall it's a 70 or 70% average cut. So I talked a little bit in the next slide. I've already talked a little bit about the homestead exemption or credit to make sure that no homeowner pays any more taxes they would have otherwise. We've also really understood that we need some type of transitional period for people build substantially on the properties. So we've provided a credit which says that if you have improved your property by at least 40% of its value, so that I built something on my property that equals 40% of the total tax value of my property. I built something substantial on the property, your taxes increase would be capped at 20% or $50,000. That whatever's whatever's lesser. So, that property for which that is not vacant, that it has property with some something built on at least 40% of the value of the total property would have a cap on their property taxes 20% We'd also recognize that there's a lot of businesses in the city which are required to have zone +1
parking. It's the zoning requirements for the business. Sometimes it's part of their parcel. Sometimes it's across the alleyway or the street they own it as a separate parcel. We didn't want to care about that. We said if you have a business which you have parked in under common ownership, whether it's on the same parcel or adjacent parcels or your your property, we will not tax have a tax increase due to that parking That way it won't be taxed at a higher reward. So we provided a credit to make sure that doesn't happen. Both your both the improvement credit and the homestead credit or automatic no application stuffing have to do. So let me kind of go through and under explain with that under basis. How we came up with 118 mils because it's a lot of confusion sometimes about what properties are you taxing? Are you arbitrary creating this rate? What we tried to do in the first year 2025. And of course we don't know the values, which is why I thought other than 25 so I'm using 23 values. We took the 14 Mills reduced it from the city's tax base is excellent the bad bookworm Levy. So the Edward levy in the city would go down to six Mills approximately levy overall within the city would go to under 54 Mills at 54 Mills is applied both to your home again as well as your improvements both to the improvements I mean the improvements as well as to the land. We then took the 14 mils and said well that produced for the city but for the city 6.1 approximately billion dollars of taxable value that produced $85 million in revenue is that $85 million to get the same dollars for that from the land I just divided into my land values and produce 180 mils. The proposal also says we can reimburse ourselves for the cost of the credits. On top of the $85 million. There's about $8 million values and credits so we represent the rate also. So if things take a second to talk about how the legislation provide for implementation, there's a series of steps council would be involved in. First, of course, we have to get the authorizing legislation legislation passed. This is not something any city can do right now. That's not something we could have done independent of the legislature's authorization. So Lansing is legislature when anything is considered considering this is before the full house today and would go to the Senate passed by the House. Once adopted, the mayor is required to request and recommend a land value tax to Council for approval. That recommendation or requests would tell you how many mils of the 20 would be transferred and converted into a levy tax. Presently the mayor's thinking that will be 14 mils and would make that recommendation. We don't know exactly the conversion rate because you have to know the 2025 levy taxable values to know that but for 2023 if it stayed the same, that would be 180 mills. This there also is a system of credits is optional, or the credits. You can provide those credits by council approval. So the mayor would recommend what he would like Council to approve those credits. And there's also a provision that says we could face this in over three years at a step what increase and, and that would be recommended whether the mayor would suggest council approval phase and right now the mayor's approach would be to have this going all once have the tax cuts have started the maximum levels Speaker 4
22:18but Council will then consider that and adopted if approves it and place it before the voters. It will be a November 5 2024 election that would be the earliest time for which the legislation which allowed election that is an amendment which is being considered today in the legislature. And then in April of 2025 constantly go through the normal process. It always goes through every year to certify the levy of those taxes for the tax bill and that year. In parallel, what oh CFO will do from that we have started already is finalized the online calculator. We want the voters to be able to see what their property tax was and what their talking property tax would be. Under this proposal, using the most up to date information we have. We'd also work with the state tax commission and our software provider bsfa Who provides tax bills and tax assessment notices to make sure that software is updated to allow us to do this Our objective is to put this on one bill. Unlike today's system where we have multiple bills you'd receive one for your AC one for your land one for your personal property. We would like to get this on one bill and that will require a substantial upgrade of what BSA does for us as long as approvals have submission. And we want to make sure whether it's a calculator or the tax system where you lose goes through a thorough rigorous checking and testing to make sure what the taxpayers receive is the correct information. So, lastly, I'd like to talk first about the ballot proposal what the statute requires. So it's unusable unusable. You don't normally you go to the taxpayers and say would you approve authorization to increase the levy by X number of mils? Or would you approve a bond issue of X number of dollars with an estimated levy necessary to pay that bond issue of a certain estimate number of bills. This is something more like the bond issue. We're asking the voters in the ballot question to say how many Mills will you convert of your ad valorem rate into a into a win value rate? We know what that bills are the airborne rate we want to convert our 14 The exact number of bills into the land valuate depending upon the year in which it was implemented, what the taxable value of land is. So we know in 2023, that will be 180. It could be a little less it could be a little more in the next year, but we put the estimate what we think the voters will receive just like a bond proposal would do. The system would also tell them the system accredits which was enabled by the Bill and approved by City Council the homestead credit improvement credit the parking credit, and we'd also get their approval if Ovation period was recommended and approved by council that afford the phase in period. That's what the required is required to be included on the ballot proposal. So finally, where we are, as I said, I was considering this bill this week, hopefully passing the Senate with them have have it before them. If we can have get the bill passed this year still, our objective is to come back to council on the first quarter next year and have by end of April. Council consider this and take its time to understand the details of incidents of tax more than I've given you today. So that we can have this discussion for without rushing it through and have approval of council by by the end of April during this time. We're continuing to work on implementation so that we're ready to go in 2025. The general election again was November 5 2024. With that, I'm happy to take questions helping Kevin who said we're experts in both the assessment system and as well as the data behind these proposals. Answer questions if I can't.
President Sheffield
26:29All right, anything additional Mr. Horn, or Okay. All right. We will turn it over to LA's I just want to first state. I'm glad to see that the speed of which this thing was moving has slowed down some. And so I think the general public would be pleased to know that as well, too. I think those who may have been for it or against it. I think the general consensus that I've heard was that people just needed more time to understand what was before it. So so just to be clear, regardless of what happens in the Senate today, whether it passes or not, we're not going to take this up in the house. Excuse me in the house. Thank you member waters. We're not taking this up until next year. You will not be on until the presidential general election in November. Yes. Okay. I will now turn it over to if there's any questions from my colleagues on this and we are looking forward to having a committee of a whole is again to to have more dialogue and to have different sides present when this topic is well added up at a later date. I saw a couple of hands. We'll start with the member Callaway.
Speaker 3
27:30Yep, thank you Madam Chair. And good morning, gentlemen. Real quick if 30% of the land in downtown is parking, a mix between site lots and garages? Is there an estimate of how much of those undeveloped underdeveloped parking lots will fall under the LVT?
Speaker 4
27:51Well, all of them will fall under the LBT if they're undeveloped have nothing on the sidelines they all will see an increase of Texas to
Speaker 3
27:58Okay, and then thank you man to your and thank you Mr. riser. My next question is can you explain to the public what makes the LVT anti speculation?
Speaker 4
28:07Well, it's just the question of whether or not if you encourage people to develop by lowering the cost of development and discourage the holding of property by increasing the cost of holding and speculation whether that shifts the shifts the pendulum toward development from retention. And that's what we believe. Sometimes we talk too much about the the increase rate as a penalty. We don't really realize the tax cut is really what's going to strive to push into development because developers need to be able to finance and come up with the capital to make their development and I've just reduced by 17% the cost of the cost of holding the property upon development so just like by building a new home, I want to look at what I can afford in a mortgage. And my mortgage is going to include my escrow for my taxes and my insurance. I've just reduced by 70% that constantly holding my property taxes in that calculation that allows me to choose Detroit over a thriving city, which has a lower cost of development of building and mic because a lower cost of taxes in Detroit. Suddenly that barrier to entry has been removed.
Speaker 3
29:16And my last question, Madam Chair, thank you Mr. Rising if our main concern is speculators buying all the land, the land they do buy in the city and not developing it and just sitting on it. Why not just have something specific to speculators, or those folks who live out of the country and don't do anything with the properties that they own? Why not address them?
Speaker 4
29:46That's a good question. I think it goes back to my last answer. I can seek to penalize as much as possible speculators, but they don't incentivize development. I've only done half the job. And it's really the tax cut. Which is just as important as as, as the criminal costs, uphold that property.
Unknown Speaker
30:05Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, Mr. Bryson.
President Sheffield
30:08Thank you, member Callaway, Councilmember waters.
Speaker 5
30:11Thank you, Madam President. Good morning, morning. All right. So I have a few questions frankly. Um, first thing I want to know is how are you planning to conduct the land value assessment to equalize the value of land the physical structures on them? This is something that the bill requires to be done by the government that opts to transition to the land value tax. How do you plan to handle that? Good question.
Speaker 4
30:39I'll let Alvin talk. Let me say, we, we are we already got your property, land and improvement separately. So it's a process that we just need to continue and as you know, probably your energy has a separate value from land because that's under the property tax and separate value for improvements under the NEC. So on your tax bill, you can see that if you haven't any see what that is, but I'll let Alvin expounded upon that
Speaker 6
31:10after the Chair thank you for the question. I'm constantly Walters, as the CFO pointed out, every taxing jurist every local government unit in this state is required to use what's known as the cost approach to valuation. Under that approach, you have a separate value for the land and a separate value for the improvement so those numbers those values already exists. The difference of the sum those numbers that combine one value one military under the LVT, the components remains separate. A separate value for the improvement with a lower millage rate, a separate value for the land with a higher millage rate, but I can assure members of council those values already exist. We're not doing something new. We're required to fully use the cost approach under current state law. Thank you. All right. So
Speaker 5
32:02so expect to lose revenue gain revenue as a result of LVT. I have some tremendous concerns as it relates to because what you did the legislation you're protecting the businesses with the abatement and And yet, for the residents, they can no longer have an easy and easy because you're phasing that part out. So does that mean that businesses who already come to us for abatements and we've been we've been we've been you know, acting in good faith, but these businesses so are you telling me now they're gonna get to benefit from LVT and additional Betamax because you left that you put that in the bill. And And meanwhile, when there's a shortfall, who's gonna pay for it? I saw income tax increases the possibility in there as well. I have some really grave concerns about what's gonna happen with taxpayers. I cannot see past the first year, gentlemen, the first year maybe the taxpayers will receive a small discount maybe. And then after that, everything starts to tumble. You there won't realize in any savings residence. You know, we have a responsibility. And matter of fact, I want to see you do a 10 year projection in terms of where how people are going to save, who's going to lose. I haven't had all my questions answered by you all because we've set a ton of questions and to you. And so I need you to respond to that. And then I just have a few few other questions for you.
Speaker 4
33:54Let me try to unpack a little bit, because you have a lot of good questions in here. So we understand that on average, there's a 70% tax cut for homeowners. 97% of the people will read have a reduction as a whole on average, if your land value is 1/8 of your total taxable value, or, or mass. You're gonna save that on average, as years go by because we fix a rate it's a permanent rate and actually that Satan goes up or down. The savings will go up.
Speaker 5
34:35Why did you leave the abatement in there for businesses? Why?
Speaker 4
34:39Well, what we did was try to say we will have a transitional provision that unlike homeowners will have our tax increase, but it will keep capped at 20% till they saw the property. What we tried to do is, is go away from a system where you have to know someone you have to know the system had project needs to be big enough to be able to get an abatement by permission by city consultation and have the abatement process still exist for other taxes. But to have for the city's the city's tax. They have a permanent 70% average average got that 14 million but that doesn't mean that abatements will go away. That'll mean some projects need more than that. They just need more than 14 mils or 17% Cut from the city's levy but they need is also a cut from this from the county's Levy and other taxing jurisdictions. So you'll likely see for especially the transformational projects and bigger projects, you'll see the same request for payments you've seen now. But for individuals making decision of where to build a home, they won't need to seek an NEC. They'll just have something they can rely on permanently. And they don't have to happen to live in the wealthier neighborhoods. And get that opportunity. Because this is universal. everywhere in the city gets this. I don't have to be an easy thing of this.
Speaker 5
36:08Okay, yeah, I might ask you that question later when we have additional discussions. So urban farms, community gardens and community spaces will not be affected by the land value tax, which is very important. What language can be added to best ensure that a lot owners will not just add a dilapidated part, plant a few trees or add a garden to have their land reclassified as an improved community space to evade higher taxes?
Speaker 4
36:36Excellent question. So we we met multiple weeks with the Urbanek culture groups, kind of with the Eastern Market folks kind of coordinating this. They had that same concern. They had the concern that we were opening up so a speculator we had hundreds of acres could just plant some tomato plants on the line and get an equity exemption. So what we did was modeled this after the state's agricultural exemption program, which has certain requirements of the level of production, what and what you're doing on your property. So I think they're comfortable and I think we're comfortable that we can administer this agricultural exemption to be really urban gardens, urban farms, things committed for that purpose, and if they change at the salon, we know it because you have to file property transfer affidavit and it's revoked at that time. Otherwise, we'll we'll get every three years, but you don't have to come in for an application every year.
Speaker 5
37:36All right. What is the plan going forward if doubling the tax bill of certain landowners is not enough to force sales on development? What if these landowners are fine with flooding the additional taxpayer because they have a capital do so what we'll do next? We're going to increase income taxes on the residents. What are we going to do about it?
Speaker 4
37:56No, I mean, I think the proposal goes into it as a revenue neutral proposal. In the future, the 14 Mills is dependent this growth is dependent on land value growth in the city. The six Mills is dependent just as is now on total cash value growth. So that six Mills benefits by whatever new development gets. So if there's development that happens because of this tax cut, which we believe there is and we believe peer reviewed research shows that this has happened if we see an 8% increase in development in the city. Because of this, we'll be able to capture that additional revenue with the six wheels we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. We'll also be able to capture the income tax spin off that development produces. No one's proposing an income tax rate. No one's proposing a shift to higher income taxes. We're just proposing to use our income tax to benefit from the development that we'll see because the land decade tax
President Sheffield
38:57to make sure we get to everyone and
Speaker 5
38:59then well, I have more than one more but I'll heal if other folks want one. And let me just ask this last one and then I'll yield. Come back if necessary. Several Landgraf concerns for landowners who cannot afford extra taxes. And become delinquent. What happens if these properties revert back to the land bank, which already is the largest owner of vacant properties are similarly for land owners who cannot afford extra taxes and become delinquent? What happens if wealthy individuals then grab up this newly available land that they've still refused to develop? Because they can afford the taxes last night? What happens if welfare developers grab more land to develop but but it just acts exacerbates the gentrification gentrification we're already seeing and leads to people being pushed out of their communities. How do we mitigate some of these likely scenarios before they happen? So you can respond to that, but I also want you to respond to how we got to protect the renters too. Because that's a problem. People who rent places in the city that's an issue.
Speaker 4
40:16There's a lot of questions there. But let me wait first to tackle the question completely gentrification. So this is called the Land Tax Equity. Act for a reason because we're making this available to every place in the city. Right now. The NZ program is only available to certain more wealthy neighborhoods, if any gentrification is happening is happening because the land the NEC, its current tax system, which is quiet which would cause that not an equitable system where everyone that city has to say an opportunity to have an accident. So I think the idea that this produces gentrification is contrary to what you know, but the current system is something's going to be contrary to what the current system does.
Unknown Speaker
41:05Alright, so how are we going to protect the renters? Did you say
Speaker 4
41:08renters, landlords, owners of commercial property get the same tax cut as everyone else, they're still get the 14 million reductions, whether that that gives them the opportunity to pass through that as over rent, or its improvements and also produces another factor which would cause border rents. That is the ability to develop more affordable housing. And affordable housing projects are stopped because of the tax taxes in the city and put the pop up after the of taxes after the payments are over. But this doesn't allow is there's no pop up anymore. So you there's more incentive to
Speaker 5
41:45just say this man President didn't want to give my colleagues an opportunity. I do have a bunch of quick head they answered all my questions before I wouldn't have to be asking them here. But But I just want to assure you that these landlords and I got to pass on the savings. They're gonna be jacking up rent, and we're gonna have even more eviction. That's my comment, man, Madam President. I'll yield for now. If we have time. I'd like to come back. All right. Thank
President Sheffield
42:10you. Councilmember Johnson.
Speaker 7
42:13Thank you, Madam President. And good morning. So my colleagues did ask both of the questions that I really want to ask about but I wanted to shape it a little differently. Really trying to understand how land value tax prevents speculation. Because what will happen is, the increase in land tax that they receive is the same increase in land tax that a developed property receives. So what incentivizes them to actually develop on that land if whether it's developed or not, the Land tax is still the same. will remember
Speaker 4
42:55the default property Housel sees a 14% cut. So overall, the default property property has a tax cut. It does see increase in the value as land and if it's in a high mill pile, like downtown, you're gonna see a higher increase anywhere in the rest of the city. So I agree with you. Nothing's gonna stop speculation. It's it's, it's what you want to do is, is is encouraged development. And so part of what stops speculation is making the city more open to development through more competitive tax system. And that's what I think the land value tax does.
Speaker 7
43:30So let me push back a little bit on that because we have developments that come to us on a weekly basis, that whether it's in the neighborhood downtown or wherever, they could apply for the N E Z that will no longer exist, right. So today, someone could apply for an NEC if this was in effect, where they would be taxed that increase amount in land, and they could apply for the NEC. So what still I still don't see the encouragement in developing on land, as opposed to continuing to hold on to the property is there are there thoughts around increasing the land tax as the years progress? Because I don't see that a speculator who's purely a speculator is going to develop on on the land that they own. Well, counsel
Speaker 4
44:31can always increase it beyond the 14 mils but needs voter approval every time you do that. And I remind there's three NACA programs really there's a rehab energy there's annuities, as you know, in the home settings, the rehab, a new aren't going to, they're going to continue. So So development, which is happening as under a new energy program or rehab, any suit program will continue to have that opportunity. It's the homestead MEC wood. Which is term limited, which is being converted into the land value tax. So they're really trading after it's over, they're trading the higher popup rate they would receive otherwise or they had form as compared to the land value tax because during the life of the of the NDC they they continue to get the better deal.
Speaker 7
45:19And I want to challenge that as well. Because so I live in a neighborhood that has had the NEC for the last 17 years, right it was just renewed two years ago and the challenge that I had with this entire proposal was in fact that we decided to eliminate the residential tax abatement but no other tax abatement, right. So when we talk about equity, I think we're using the wrong term. So we're in essence talking about equality, when everyone is going to get the reduction in 11 meals. But when you look at property values or property sales, to go from a property that's 100,000 to 200,000 to $300,000 the property taxes are drastically different. So equity would be steel being able to apply for the NAC and having the land value tax on top of it, because that then takes into consideration the increased tax property tax for the $300,000 property and keeping it more in line with the $100,000 property. And so I think we may discourage folks from actually purchasing houses in the city of Detroit that are selling for 300 $400,000 Because now the property tax is uncapped. And so we now have the increase in property tax rate. But we only have the 11 mil land value tax reduction when the any z is a greater reduction.
Speaker 4
47:04And you're correct. There's nothing we can do about the pop up caused by buying new by selling a property.
Speaker 7
47:09And I think it's something that we want to see we want to see property values increase right for somebody who bought their house for 100,000. And they're able to sell it for 300,000. Absolutely. That's what we want to encourage but I'm afraid we may not we may actually discourage that with what's happening with the N E Z, residential or homestead being removed.
Speaker 4
47:32There is a slight difference between the NHD and the land value tax. I think it's 2%. But what you get with it, evade tax is you don't have to apply for it. They don't have to live in that certain neighborhood. And, and I get to continue forever. I think that's the big difference that mitigates against the concerns you have saying that you should have both. It'd be nice if you could afford it, but it would only be for people who live in certain areas of the city. It wouldn't be have the equal treatment we're trying to get but
Speaker 7
48:04individuals can apply for in any z rehab. So we see the one offs come before us all the time. Right that are not within the neighborhoods that have been identified. The last thing that I want to say is I'm not sure where we keep getting 68 meals from I have my property tax bill and mine my land because I do live in it in any z. My land millage is 76 mils I'm not sure why but I love to have that conversation with someone and then my any z is 63 meals so the numbers that have been shared continually put us between 50 and 60 meals that makes us competitive with our suburban communities. But Mom will be hired
Unknown Speaker
48:52question maybe Alvin can answer that.
Speaker 6
48:59Through the Chair, thank you for the question. Ma'am Johnson, the NEC homestead which your property has it taxes the improvement in the land very differently. The land is at the after warm tax rate. So it was at the original tax rate. The reduction is to the improvement. It reduces the C three millage in half. It reduces the county operating millage in half. So it works somewhat the same way the LVT does, in the sense that reduces to C operating the LVT reduces to C operating deeper. It reduced the top end use deep cuts in half. The LVT reduces to 5.94 to zero. It leaves the county operating millage alone. The NEC reduces the county operating millage in half LVT doesn't touch it. The difference is the LVT increases the millage on the land. What you're looking at in your tax bill is a land tax at the full F alarm right now. Let's double check those numbers for you just to make sure that that's right. But that's that's how the energy works. The land is at the Avalon tax tax right the house is at the NEC reduce mill rate, which cuts cuts the say operated half and cuts to county operating and make sure those numbers are correct.
Speaker 7
50:14Thank you because I understand how they function. I'm more concerned about the ad valorem tax rate that my property is being taxed at and I've seen many others that is higher than the 68 that we refer to in the presentation.
Speaker 6
50:31We will double check everyone's numbers. There's about seven 880 homestead properties in the city of Detroit. I think one of the things that the CFO was was mentioning about tax equity and tax equality. Only about less than 10% of the properties in the city of Detroit qualify for and use any homesteads and that's because of state law. You would have had to purchase the house after December 31 1996. About 62% of property owners in Detroit bought their houses before that. Date. So the nd z is an effective tool. I work for council president a council member events and and members of council to expand upon that program. But it by design will help this helps a very small minority of property owners in the state of Detroit. That's in case the state law that's not something to say you can change the city his writing the legislation for the ltt it will cover every residential property owners. Right. Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 7
51:28Thank you. And I'll say again, I think that's the difference between equality and equity. But thank you all so much. Thank you, Madam President.
President Sheffield
51:37Thank you member Johnson. So just really quick, Mr. Horn. I know. Last time we did make some changes with NEC that actually allows residents the opportunity to extend for another 15 years and if you have the NEC rehab, and that's expiring you can then transition to a homestead for an additional 15 years. Is that correct? That's what we did as a council.
Speaker 6
51:57Through the Chair. Correct, Madam President, that's exactly what what city council
President Sheffield
52:00Okay, so I guess some of the concerns that I've heard from some residents who do have any Z's is the ability for them to continue what they currently have let it expire, and if they want to opt in for an additional 15 years, they take advantage of that because it is still a greater reduction in property taxes than the land value is. So how come that was not considered understanding everyone doesn't have it, but we just we just did that last time we created new maps, we extended the timeframe and allow individuals to go to another 15 years. How come that's not an option for residents to opt in for an additional 50 years and then once that last 15 years expires, then you trans over to the land value tax.
Speaker 6
52:41Thank you for the question. And I understand that this is going to be a point of contention with members of council. They also spent a lot of work and a lot of time a lot effort to to create the 152 in these zones throughout the city. But once again, there's 110 property owners who have principal residence exemptions and save Detroit. less than 7% of them qualify for the NDC homestead. So the LVT certainly looked at that it certainly looked at that proposal. The CFO spent a lot of time trying to justify what was being done regarding the NDC homesteads. But ultimately, and I certainly don't want to speak to the CFO who's standing right here, but ultimately, it was decided that the LVT was fair across the board that any Z's benefit a small portion of property owners in the city and the LVT being an attempt at tax reform. This was an attempt this was an opportunity to cut property taxes to shift the tax burden from residential property owners over their commercial and industrial property owners. Thank you.
President Sheffield
53:49Alright, thank you. And then my last question is just around the PR ease if you can come back up. I'm not sure if that would be Mr. Horne or Mr. Rising principal resident exemptions. How many residents actually have pyaar ease in the city of Detroit because for my understanding, you have to have that to qualify received the reduction in the land value tax. Is that not correct or accurate? You can just explain whether or not you have to have a PRA and how many residents in Detroit have
Speaker 6
54:16the LVT will affect every single parcel and say Detroit. Every improvement will see a reduction of 14 meals. Every piece of land will see a specific tax of 118 mills. So regardless of whether you have a Pru or not, you will still see that reduction. Keep in mind and this is something we probably haven't explained very well. The 14 mil reduction is the guest the city's general operating millage. That's the only thing that the city controls that 99.95 to zero millage that's been reduced by 14 mills. The pra the principal residence exam, exemption exempts a property owner who both owns and occupies their property from paying the school operating millage the Detroit Public Schools millage which is about 16 mills. So, two different things. If you own and occupy your property as your primary residence, you are eligible under state law under the f1 tax rolls are under the land value tax for the exemption from school operating mills. The LVT affects the city's general.
President Sheffield
55:19But just to be clear, we want to impact those who own and occupy their homes right. This is the attendance that we want their property taxes to be reduced. So how many residents in Detroit how many RPR ease do we have roughly?
Speaker 6
55:31I will get you the exact number today, ma'am is just about 112,000.
President Sheffield
55:36That's pretty low. Okay.
Speaker 4
55:39I doubt it. May that the importance of theory from the limpio tax is the guarantee that your taxes won't go up 97% would go down anyway. But it's it's in the guarantee that your taxes will go up if you have if your property is in theory.
President Sheffield
55:57That's okay. We have additional questions on the PRA because I mean, ultimately those are individuals or residents in our community that actually own an occupied home so they will get the benefit of the reduction in property taxes. You also have residences, remember waters mentioned that may be leasing in a home or it's a landlord that owns it, they will receive it not the resident themselves getting the property tax reduction. So if you only have you said 100,000 residents out of over 600,000 residents in Detroit that have PR ease I'm not sure how many households we have. But it seems to be a small amount of individuals that are actually owning and occupying PR es that would directly benefit from the reduction in property taxes.
Speaker 6
56:44Through the Chair, Madam President, there are approximately 212,000 residential homes in the city of Detroit. Okay, so about 51% of those homes have to care. The others are runners as you point out, they will get the same tax cut that everyone else gets. It's the uniformity clause in the Michigan Constitution you have to teach you have to treat all classes of property the same. You can't give owners a cut at the from the operating millage and not treat all other residential property owners the same way. There are six basic rights in land ownership, one of them is to do absolutely not. This tax reform is an attempt to rights to reform property tax in Detroit for the first time since God knows when to be honest what your system says Proposal A. But it's not magic bullet. It's not going to fix every single eel it's a way to go down the right path. It's a way to give tax relief to residential property owners. It's a way to if it doesn't encourage speculators to do something with their land at least they'll pay more. But it's not a magic fix. It won't fix every single thing that heals heals our tax system, but it's a it's a huge step in the right direction. Thank you.
President Sheffield
58:04All right. Thank you. All right. We're going to wrap up our discussion a couple more minutes. These were questions each person they have already we're going to stop there because we do have a two o'clock closed session and we still have our long public on the three by three o'clock. Okay, so remember waters.
Speaker 5
58:22Alright, so thank you, President Okay, so I'll get through these quickly
Speaker 5
58:32think we said before but said some Senator requests of Lansing asking for city council to have permission to abort when we requested a sunset? You guys oppose oppose all of those I mean, we had some heavy hitters lobbying against us that we had the chamber we had Gilbert, we had the elegist everybody up there in Lansing lobbying for this. So it's probably a good initiative for the businesses and probably not so much for the residents and I needed to say that it was very critical for me to say that, but I do want you to address the ability to avoid a sunset and the calculations because as a council member, I want the calculations in place before we take a vote at this table to even put it on the ballot. I need to be able to go out and engage the community, have them sit down with them, have them to type in their addresses so they know what they're getting into. I'm just so tired of us asking our communities to vote for stuff that they don't even understand. They don't even know how it benefits them. We have got to do better. And so I'm asking I'm begging I'm pleading that you have those calculations are in place, please. So the other the question is why can't we just increase the amount of the average blight ticket actually and build out and utilize blind forcement to accomplish similar goals without changing the tax code of their reasons that we don't fully understand that we can't do this differently. We're putting residents very fragile situations and stuff with this with this land tax. And then And Madam President, they don't even have to answer it right now. But I'm gonna put it out here in a ballot initiative question that goes before the voters of a community seeking to implement a land value tax system must one provide the anticipated time needed for such a tax system to go into effect should the initiative be approved, provide the anticipated cost to the city assessor's office to implement a land value tax system, including the cost of new hires, new technology, administrative costs and outside vendor costs. We are asking I'm asking for you to consider putting this on the ballot letting the people know how much it's gonna cost them to implement such a system that people deserve to know. Thank you, Madam President.
President Sheffield
01:01:08Thank you member waters. Gonna
Speaker 4
01:01:10let me go back to the very first question which was your question about a board or or cancel reverse the decision constantly make they should be amendment which is added today and in the house which we have supported, actually had helped draft which give counsel the ability to come and reverse this decision. Now you will need to go back to the voters because the voters are the one that implemented the tax cut. And if you're reversing that, and want to increase taxes, you need to go under hopefully back to the voters. But that will be amendment to make sure it's very clear also has the ability to reverse course whenever it would like to raise taxes.
President Sheffield
01:01:51Right. Thank you. All right. Thank you for being here. Thank you for the presentation in the PowerPoint that you passed out that is online for residents to view as well as we can do that. Okay. We can post that online so that people can see that presentation. That will be great. Thank you. We will look forward to continuing this discussion. And that will conclude our land value tax update for this morning
President Sheffield
01:02:25all right, the regular session of Tuesday October the 10th will come to order in already said that excuse me. As you're on about the session of Tuesday September the 26th will be approved. There being no Federation's or unfinished business. We will proceed to the budget Finance and Audit standing committee. For the budget Finance and Audit standing committee.
Unknown Speaker
01:02:43Four reports from various city departments.
President Sheffield
01:02:47The four reports will be referred to the budget Finance and Audit standing committee for the internal operation standing committee
Unknown Speaker
01:02:54members post various
President Sheffield
01:02:57denial reports. will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee
Speaker 8
01:03:05and we posted the office of contracting and procurement.
President Sheffield
01:03:09The one report will be referred to the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee for the Planning and Economic Development standing committee
Unknown Speaker
01:03:17system for some various city departments.
President Sheffield
01:03:22The six reports will be referred to the Planning and Economic Development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.
Unknown Speaker
01:03:30Then of course various state departments.
President Sheffield
01:03:33Deny reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee. We will now move to the voting action matters under other matters.
Speaker 9
01:03:41There are no I was meant to present under communications
President Sheffield
01:03:45from the mayor and other governmental officials and agencies.
Unknown Speaker
01:03:48There are no islands matter possess.
President Sheffield
01:03:50All right we will call now for general public comments. And everyone would have a one minute for public comment. We do have a closed session this afternoon. So we would like to at least have a break in between our session. Larry Mason, you will be first Good morning.
Speaker 10
01:04:06Good morning. Good morning Council. I'm just here. To extend my support to the land value tax plan. It makes sense it's a it's a step in the right direction. And I'd like to address something as well. Landlords aren't the reason rent increases are happening. You guys, city Detroit. You guys are the impediment. You guys are the ones that are increasing the burden on to the landlord, which has to get passed on to the tenant. So look inwards, don't point fingers, and we can all get together get past this and get to the solution. But landlords would reduce tax if you guys would reduce the impediments placed upon us. This doesn't help me directly. This actually raises my taxes but it's a good thing. It is proper step in the right direction. So thank you for hearing me and I appreciate your time.
President Sheffield
01:04:54All right, thank you. Maria Mason alibi Jacqueline Cuevas.
Unknown Speaker
01:05:06Hello, good morning.
Speaker 3
01:05:08I hear from District Six to put my support on the record in regards to the land value tax plan. Thank you.
President Sheffield
01:05:16All right. Thank you. Thank you for being here
President Sheffield
01:05:24is Jacqueline here. Oh, good morning.
Speaker 11
01:05:28Good morning. My name is Jacqueline Cuevas. I'm from District Six. I'm a business owner lifetime southwest Detroit resident and still reside in the area. I am here in support of the land tax value and I also am here as a disabled person. I have a developmental disability and intellectual disability. And I do wish I am here support but it was not as accessible for me to understand what was happening had to read it over and over again. And a lot of things in the city I have found are difficult. For me as a person with a disability. If there was a resource or something in plain language that can make things like this more accessible, I would greatly appreciate it. But I do think that is a step in the right direction. And I as a business owner, I look forward to more opportunities to be made available tomorrow.
President Sheffield
01:06:19All right, thank you. Thank you so much, Miss Jacqueline. The way Dwayne Heinz I'm sorry, he's not here. Okay. Malik Shelton.
Speaker 12
01:06:32More 
than these unlimited Tashjian obligation bonds. Good raise the dead millage on people's property to an unlimited extent. When Duggan was pushing for proposal in he had some of his minions, telling the public that it would not raise their taxes and unlimited tax property bond is just what it says unlimited. I'm here because somebody in the State Council was going to vote on a resolution on a bond has already been issued in 2023. See that bond was supposed to go before council before it was issued not afterwards. That's like trying to close the barn door when all the farm animals hit and run off and escaped. Too late to closed. What will happen if you don't vote on it? Well, that's Duggins as well as the CFO is probably because they're very disrespectfully did not take that bond resolution to authorize that bond to the concert like they were supposed to.
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than these unlimited Tashjian obligation bonds. Good raise the dead millage on people's property to an unlimited extent. When Duggan was pushing for proposal in he had some of his minions, telling the public that it would not raise their taxes and unlimited tax property bond is just what it says unlimited. I'm here because somebody in the State Council was going to vote on a resolution on a bond has already been issued in 2023. See that bond was supposed to go before council before it was issued not afterwards. That's like trying to close the barn door when all the farm animals hit and run off and escaped. Too late to closed. What will happen if you don't vote on it? Well, that's Duggins as well as the CFO is probably because they're very disrespectfully did not take that bond resolution to authorize that bond to the concert like they were supposed to. President Sheffield
01:07:38Mr. Shelton, Jennifer Williams
Speaker 13
01:07:43morning residents and good morning counsel. I'm glad to be here with you. This language that I've heard this morning is so other to me, so I'm just gonna bring it to you as a landlord small business owner, a lady who has brought up properties in her neighborhood. I don't know that taxes increase or levies would help me because since I bought these homes and put homeless people into homes and rehab and evictions and guns in my face and jailing. It's been a disaster for me to hold down my community. So I have saw all of those taxes rise. I bought lots. Now you're telling me that the lights that I clean up even the city lights that I clean up, you're gonna hide your taxes with that. All I'm saying is I don't have the money. I am not a developer. I'm just the grandmother of a murderer whose grandson who's trying to bring back some solidity in my community. So I don't know how I feel about this. Yes, you're gonna give me 17% On my principal homes, but all of the other homes rose and rises as well as my life. Thank you, counsel. Thank you people for hearing me God bless. God bless
President Sheffield
01:08:56you. And thank you. Karmic, followed by James sport.
Speaker 14
01:09:04Yes, my name is Bob Carmack. Good morning. Why a man in my room that the poor property paying taxes on his property? None since 2007. The property was taken off the tax roll. Why can't you take these people's property taxes off the tax roll? Why don't you investigate this? Mandy Maroun owns a property, not the port. He's the landowner. Not only that, I gave you the tax records of Conrad mela at his house in Palmer Park. It went from what 15,000 to 7000 when Mayor Duggan came in and he ran Mayor Duggins campaign. Why don't you investigate that? Why don't you investigate Gabe Leland taking bribes of all the land deals he'd done and bring him to council and reverse those deals. Why don't you also have the mayor of Detroit I asked David saying he ain't in the land deals. Why did the mayor of Detroit tried to get every big piece of property when he came in? To do development with all his rich friends? That's all. Thanks.
President Sheffield
01:10:12James four followed by Porsche it works.
Speaker 15
01:10:19City council, all great singers, all great boxes, all great athletes and everybody did something different to get where they are. You don't have to do anything different. You got suburbs fighting with you now to deal with these real life problems. They're doing it everywhere. They're doing it in Southfield. They're doing it everywhere. Royal Oak now is following your lead at dealing with the red light readers. They're following your lead they're gonna go places because they believe in you you know, I brought you a tape, a DVD of me doing a local TV show and I would appreciate it if you all look at it because it addresses the feelings of the community about this red light running and drag racing. It is terrible. You will not have any problems getting getting the suburb follow you and help you now I'm planning to take some people to Lansing and do some things we will not have problems with the suburbs. Thank you very much. We need this our children and our elderly I had state God bless you.
President Sheffield
01:11:20Thank you so much, Mr. Fort. Portia at works.
Speaker 13
01:11:28Allow me to express my outrage and frustration regarding the incompetence and inappropriate behavior exhibited by Anita Bell. It made her of the a member of the Detroit reparations Task Force. Moreover, I am deeply disappointed with the task force's overall approach under the leadership of Mary Sheffield Anita bells. recent actions at the National reparations convention are nothing short of a disgrace. Instead of focusing on reparations, she discussed UFOs black Martians and sex reparations in the form of polygamy and these are irrelevant and deplorable and crowded marches such as No justice, no the center No justice, no side piece, but a sort of idea of a melanin bank and plants and so her home for a million dollars to start a fantasy endeavor and then move to Africa. These outlandish suggestions are inappropriate for discussions on report reparative justice for black Americans. While they attend retreats, national events and conventions they have neglected the very people that are supposed to be redressed. We are left in the dark on cancelled meetings and no clear direction.
President Sheffield
01:12:31All right. Thank you guys for your time. I appreciate before you proceed, ma'am, I just want to be very clear. We appointed members to the task force. The members of the task force have collectively come together to decide how they would like to move forward. It is a city council Task Force. However, it's not under my leadership. It's under the leadership of the members who have been elected amongst themselves to move forward in the direction that they chose to move. So we are going to continue to work with them as they are taking a I think it was a two month pause and internally to hire administrative assistant and to get things in order. And so that was the decision of the members of the board to do that. And so thank you for your comments. And I will also encourage you to direct any concerns comments or suggestions to the members of the task force itself. All right, thank you so much. And kunda Anderson? Yes, so morning
Speaker 13
01:13:29I want to talk about why we are here. And one of the main reasons that I feel and I know it's just my opinion, and it's because of Detroit land bank. So when we look at the information that the Department of neighborhoods is giving to the community, it said it's over 92,000 parcels that we have issues with. And so when you think about the agreement, and I see that is on the agenda, and Councilwoman waters is supposed to discuss the memorandum of understanding, I really want some clarity. I know you guys can change land bank. And the reason why I know that is in the agreement, it states that it can be removed, and it should be when you think about how I've tried to purchase houses and I was not successful, and it doesn't make any sense because the house is still available to purchase and so when you look at a neighbor living in a house and it's four and five families live in and then you got vacant houses next door, there's a issue in one minute. We never get a woman in it needs to shine.
President Sheffield
01:14:38All right, thank you before you leave, man, we want to respond to you as well regarding the Detroit Land Bank Authority. I start with President Pro Tem Tate.
Speaker 16
01:14:45Thank you Madam President. So good morning. Thank you for being here. I'm the chair of the Planning and Economic Development standing committee where the MOU will be coming. I want you to reach out to my office please and I have someone from my team that you can connect with you to hear some of your concerns. But I will say that I recall what it's like prior to the land bank being in place and things are a lot better in terms of how we execute property. And perfect though, and we've said that on numerous occasions. So the challenge what we have to do is figure out how to balance what was bad and ugly. Before with what doesn't work today. And so we want to get your input your feedback as we're doing that around the district. One thing we're going to talk afterwards promise you that's part of the reason why I'm gonna let you say that I'm not from your office. I don't know who you are, man. I'm saying I don't have someone from my team who's going to come over and talk to you. That's me saying this on the record, right.
President Sheffield
01:15:42All right. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Ruby probably followed by
Unknown Speaker
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Unknown Speaker
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Speaker 17
01:15:57say what is my attorney speak I'm having public comment. You ought to order
President Sheffield
01:16:03you have two minutes and if you if you are disruptive.
Unknown Speaker
01:16:07Just my public comment term. Am I not
President Sheffield
01:16:10you have the right I'm just starting now. Okay.
Speaker 17
01:16:15It means vote is right here. Messages to Janice Winfrey. To return a call regards. Absentee ballot. You know, you on Election Commission. Can you get in touch with her is she here? I don't see. Three nowhere I've seen I've been looking for for a month and a half that they're going to fraud. Excellent. Excellent are building. Oh, yeah. Can you see comin? Now I'm gonna take this last 30 seconds. to applaud. Commend and congratulate you Troy Detroit Police Department Chief James White for picking up the phone and calling in the Michigan State Police to investigate his own but a cover up a murder or kaneesha Cohen now that fraud left. He was involved in a cover up or the cover up. We got Willie bail over the border police commissioner's Jackson justice and you're like done.
President Sheffield
01:17:18Thanks for your time. We're gonna now move to those who want more in person I don't have occurred
Speaker 18
01:17:30Good morning. Morning. I was on the phone but I was outside and figure out come in. I was listening to everyone. One of the problems I have is land bank, coming here giving out numbers and take in our tax dollars. But we come down here time and time trying to get help in our community and we can't get it without tax dollars. But everybody comes here and take on our tax dollars. I got land bank houses go down my street you guys know I've been coming down here next to me and land bank put prices on the house. Nice, really nice can down but they want to put 5000 It's gonna take about 40 or 50,000 to fix it up holes in the roof. The portfolio on upon it and it smells you know coming out the house. And my problem is we got to stop letting Doug and get what he wants. Give the people what they want. The people need that we don't want their boat but yeah, the land bank and all them. Come in here and vote for you guys. That's what I'm wanting to say. Thank you also just want to give thanks to my son that passed the last week. You know he passed on. So like
President Sheffield
01:18:46so sorry to hear that Mr. Howe the wheel. We would definitely keep you and your family lifted in prayer. And thank you for actually taking the time to be your this morning is we'll all right, that will conclude. Okay, that will conclude all of our in person public comment and we will now turn to virtual.
Speaker 19
01:19:04Good morning Madam President. We had 31 Hands raised before you cut off public comment the first caller on Zoom is Carol Hughes.
Speaker 20
01:19:14Good morning honorable body through the chair. May I be heard? Yes, ma'am. Carolyn Hughes. The lady who came down and spoke about the land bank is the sentiments of most residents, long term residents. We need to get rid of the land bank and miss. Councilwoman waters please don't be disingenuous about what this council can do. You don't have to pass it to go to the ballot, because as Mr. Crowley has not only suggested but we have proof of that in the clerk's office. The mayor gets what he wants whether it be through our vote or not. Because we know that the votes aren't counted properly in the city of Detroit. I am calling about 19.1 through 19 point 13 Could you please suggest to the clerk that she put down where that bond funding is coming from and 23 dot 10 about the census. Please use the census or we're going to have to start getting paid for filling out the census. The resources are given according to the census report. Please distribute the funding.
Speaker 19
01:20:26next caller is Detroit affordable housing and I can't see the rest. So Detroit affordable housing.
Speaker 21
01:20:33Yes, good morning. Council. I do have one we only got one minute. Okay. I want to let you know that we want a mayor Sheffield up be so kind as to approach the mayor and his
Unknown Speaker
01:20:50his his
Speaker 21
01:20:53sight money that he has and for the ARP money to go to increasing homeless shelters in Detroit because people we understand that the homeless shelters now are at capacity and they will be off the chain. In the winter. We won't see anyone else dying in the cold and also we want and I sent you a letter sent you our email about that. Also the land value tax is a scam and we know it give us our $600 million back that you stole and then with that we got a good we have a wonderful tax value for our money that you still give that back to us.
President Sheffield
01:21:41All right, thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker
01:21:44The next caller is Georgia Cole.
President Sheffield
01:21:47The morning Miss Cole. Hello.
Speaker 22
01:21:49Good morning. Hello. Good morning. This is Georgia calls. On behalf of the sale beautiful black club association president of the Black club in district five. When I say your honor for President Fifield thank you so much for everything that you do over here in size. And I think everyone in our dancing with the butler, Robeson and Aaron Harris and everyone's great work over here to be five. I'm calling in support of the million dollar tax initiative. And I would like for the City Council and under the guidance on this schedule to get an initiative to vote yes for it in order to help our tax situation here in Detroit. And we just thank everyone for everything that you're doing here over in district five weekly for members. Thank you once again, and for my last few minutes we'd like to remind everybody that this is domestic violence month, not just to get those that are still yet victims of domestic violence.
President Sheffield
01:22:58Thank you, Miss Cole.
Unknown Speaker
01:23:00The next caller is Carrie Amara.
Speaker 23
01:23:04Good morning Council members. Thank you very much. President Sheffield for this time. I am curry Jordan curry O'Meara Jordan, born in district five, and now moved away for 12 years moved back to the city of Detroit to raise my son and I am a renter in district seven and soon to be a first time homeowner in district two. So I am calling today in support of the land value tax and also in support of both sides of the issue who are working diligently to work out any kinks. I can see the work that you are doing through the questions that you ask through the the proof that you're asking for that you are in support of the city of Detroit residents and I appreciate you for that. Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:24:12The next caller is William and Davis.
Unknown Speaker
01:24:15Morning cannot be heard.
President Sheffield
01:24:17Yes you can. Good morning.
Speaker 24
01:24:18Okay as it relates to land value tax, it appears to be like smoke and mirrors like the car insurance paying the dog of course. You know as a city truck retirement you know, we are quite concerned that this is liable to put the city back into bankruptcy if the city really wanted to cut taxes. All they need to do is sell all the land bank properties and put those on the tax roll. And that way that would also reduce our rain tax we pay every month for drainage fees because right now, land bank properties don't pay taxes. They don't pay drainage fee but we we so sold in a hole Burke did that or that and also, if you're going to sell out the land bank properties, which I think you should, you should put a limit to no one combined more than three during a year. You know that? You know there's a whole lot more we can and should do but this land value tax is not ready for primetime. It is smoke and mirrors. Thank you.
President Sheffield
01:25:18All right, thank you.
Speaker 19
01:25:21The next caller is Zenaida Flores
Speaker 25
01:25:28Hello, my name is Fernando Flores and I was calling in support of the land value tax. I believe it is a good incentive for the taxpayers and it would help protect landowners as far as homesteaders 100% homesteaders thank you
Unknown Speaker
01:25:52right the
Speaker 19
01:25:54the next caller is Thurman Ligon Jr.
President Sheffield
01:26:02Good morning.
Unknown Speaker
01:26:11Can you hear me? Good morning.
President Sheffield
01:26:12Yes, we can hear you. Good morning.
Speaker 26
01:26:16Thank you. And I'd like to first start by saying to our council here. Thank you for the work that you're doing. Questions that are being answered. They are valued questions and concerns. I am in support of the land values tax. I would like to see both the both of these groups work together so that we can sound a plan that is in the benefit of the residents. I'm on district three residents worked closely with our district three administration with the city and with city council. I think this this is a help the step in the right directions we just need to make sure that everyone is protected and know what they're getting into prior to. So again, thank you all. Everyone have a great day.
President Sheffield
01:27:12Right Thank you sir. Thank you
Unknown Speaker
01:27:15the next caller is Karen Winston.
President Sheffield
01:27:21The morning Miss Winston. Hello. Yes. Good morning.
Unknown Speaker
01:27:27Yes. Good morning. How are you? Hear me?
President Sheffield
01:27:31Yes, we can. Good morning. Great. Great. Great
Speaker 27
01:27:34Okay. Um, no. Let's talk about $600 million over tax, you know, over taxation. And then let's talk about the $250 core bill. Setting charge that's Well, that was the 10 year fee is supposed to be gone by now. I've looked it up you guys can do like so we shouldn't have that that's probably bigger than any meals that we have. And you keep throwing that 16 meals just 18 meals not 16 And, you know so you guys, you know they cut numbers here and there. You know. It's ridiculous. Now I don't want any more we had the vacant house department. We have the demolition department now we got construction and demolition department and every one of them had been troubled the land bank, we just got to report where Jim right he took off because he knew McCargo Manado whoever whichever one of those guys, you know that took off because they know that there's a lot of dirty things going on within the land bank and the Detroit building authority. You got to stop
President Sheffield
01:28:38right. Thank you.
President Sheffield
01:28:48Hello. Good morning.
Speaker 28
01:28:49Good morning. My name is Mr. Miles. I am calling in about the tax bill that you guys are trying to get approved. And like I've heard, it's a lot of questions that has not been answered. And it's a lot of things that seems to be hidden agendas. And I heard a mention of hiring the Blight tickets Well, I've been receiving a lot of blight tickets. And a lot of these tickets. If you guys get on the actual owners of these businesses, liquor stores and restaurants that has the customers that create blight that doesn't have a garbage can. And if you city workers pick up the trash on time
President Sheffield
01:29:55right thank you so much for your call.
Unknown Speaker
01:29:58next caller is Frank Hamer. To him
Speaker 29
01:30:05thank you President Sheffield council members waters in Johnson for supporting the rally as to latas Jefferson North by Super exploited part time temporary workers who are seeking a just UAW contract. The media blackout of Council's resolution in support of the UAW three weeks ago is shameful. You each need to break through the censorship by publicizing your resolution to all your constituencies and don't forget the 1100 UAW strikers picketing for nearly a month at Blue Cross Blue Shield. There's a new global crisis triggered by the assault by Hamas against the State of Israel on behalf of 2 million Palestinians held in the Gaza Strip, the largest open air prison and the most densely populated land in the world. The corporate pro Zionist media refuses to acknowledge that the Hamas assault as deplorable as it is, is part of a just 75 years struggle for freedom by the Palestinian people show your support at 6pm tonight on Michigan Avenue in Dearborn. Thank you. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:31:15The next caller is Cunningham. The morning
President Sheffield
01:31:25the morning Mr. Cunningham
Speaker 30
01:31:29please excuse me. I'm at the barber school on San Juan Wes Nichols. I'm not talking about the tax land. Certain people get what they want when they want it. And it's a waste of energy to fight it. But on Facebook for subservience Cunningham on Facebook for subservience going out and hotline number to listen to or to contact me 31333 Sorry 3134449114313444911 for the the weather is changing. I give out hand warmers and bus tickets all year round the bus tickets in hand warmers in the colder season. Hopefully, maybe possibly Madam President, and maybe member Callaway. They gave me hand warmers last year to disseminate and I did so. And those of you at home. The buses are 60% 16 Maybe two or 3% on time, meaning they're outside in the elements longer than they should be. So it's a blessing to give them those.
President Sheffield
01:32:39Right Thank you Mr. Cunningham.
Unknown Speaker
01:32:41next caller is Betty a Varner.
President Sheffield
01:32:53Varner Good morning.
Speaker 31
01:32:55Good morning to all Betty a barn and president of DeSoto Ellsworth black Association, aka diva. D is for dedicated, E is for and body. B is for believing and A is for always we believe in our community. I'm just asking, you know, I'm always advocating for my neighborhood and ads asking the council to please support. I think a corridor when that process gets to the council also needing a contractor to please step forward to work with my organization. To get a walkway. We need an asphalt walkway for our deeba community park. We have POTUS vacant lot and we are creating a park this was our late vice president Gwendolyn Lanier her dream was to have a part. Please help.
President Sheffield
01:34:03Thank you Miss Varner.
Speaker 19
01:34:04The next caller is Karen hammer.
President Sheffield
01:34:12Good morning Miss Hamer.
Unknown Speaker
01:34:17Good morning. Can you hear me?
President Sheffield
01:34:19Yes we can. Good morning.
Speaker 32
01:34:21Good morning. I stand to support the Palestinian people. Apply the declaration of human rights to all I want to thank City Council for your new unanimous support of Michigan ah Bill House Bill 4359. About plastics. Plastics come from oil. Plastics break down into micro pieces and entered the human bloodstream. They affect fertility, nerve function and infant development. In Detroit plastic bags clogged the recycling effort and the storm drains they make flooding worse. I support the green taskforce plans to equitably implement implement a plastic bag but ban bit by bit. So mom and pops and small businesses can transition is they're able and they don't want a fee. To burden Detroit's low income residents.
President Sheffield
01:35:28Right Thank you, Miss hammer.
Unknown Speaker
01:35:30The next caller is Marguerite Maddox and Scarlet
President Sheffield
01:35:39morning Miss Maddox
Speaker 33
01:35:44morning Can you hear me okay?
President Sheffield
01:35:48Yes, we can.
Speaker 33
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Speaker 33
01:36:09what do we get from the blog we get because I remember back in the day.
Speaker 33
01:36:29Of The Month now I do not know
Unknown Speaker
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Speaker 33
01:37:04Number I rob sigh work, please. Reading and I'm done. Thank you
President Sheffield
01:37:28all right. Thank you so much. Miss Maddox.
Unknown Speaker
01:37:32next caller is calling user one.
President Sheffield
01:37:38Calling user one Good morning.
Unknown Speaker
01:37:41Can you hear me?
President Sheffield
01:37:42Yes we can
Unknown Speaker
01:37:45morning how are you?
President Sheffield
01:37:48Good thank you.
Speaker 34
01:37:50Can you please tell me Mary ship feel in member waters? When are you going to do something about this Dexter constantly being two to four hours. Late during the week that's putting children's lives that Bruce and Mary Sheffield when are you going to provide me information in terms of why those that are disabled are denied the right to use the restroom at the Rosa Parks transit center without being patted down. Show me what federal law allows for that. I've been waiting for someone from your office to address it and keep ducking and dodging and it's ducking and dodging from member waters office. I've been trying to get appointments to speak with her for the last six months. With Jason Can you give me an answer?
President Sheffield
01:38:51All right. Thank you, Michelle. I know we do communicate with you very often and we will make sure if the department has not responded to the bus service on Dexter that they do so in writing. Um, I'd like to make sure we have everything in writing. And we'll make sure that we send that to you via email. So thank you so much for calling and we will make sure we follow up with you as well. All right, thank you
Unknown Speaker
01:39:17the next caller is m Winfrey.
Speaker 25
01:39:20Hi, this is Maryland Winfrey from the Northwest Community Black Law Association. And I believe that land tax value plan could be beneficial to the city and to the residents. However, I feel that there's a lack of communication and there's a lot of people out there advocating for the no vote. And I don't think that we're educating that the people who actually are being spokespersons for the city are educated enough to help us to fully understand I have attended three virtual meetings and virtual meetings only represent a small percentage of the city especially like in my community happened to people don't have emails or don't know how to use Zoom and all that great stuff. So I think the city should take it to the streets, like to the black clubs, to the churches, etc. And help us to better understand what we will be facing we'll probably be mad we'll probably be one of the ones who will not be able to receive a benefit from it. But if 97% Well, I will be all for it. But I want the people to actually come out
President Sheffield
01:40:26alright, thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker
01:40:29next caller is Linda Bowie.
Unknown Speaker
01:40:33Good morning. Can you hear me?
President Sheffield
01:40:35Yes, we can. Good morning.
Speaker 8
01:40:36Okay, I want to first of all, thank all the council members who asked questions regarding the land value tax those questions in my opinion and I'm going on the record as a no vote to the land value tax. Those questions and comments that you may speak loudly as to why everyone should be voting no on this land value tax. Also, I am an agreement with all the callers that called in and spoke a no vote. Also, I'd like to say the land bank should be gotten rid of please go back and look at Mayor Duggan speech that he made in 2016 where he encouraged people to buy side lots and land and He dictates how that land should be used. They could only put a flowers on it or urban garden, people who want it to develop and actually build on that land was blocked. Please vote no and encourage all of your colleagues to vote no on that land value tax. It is not equitable. It is not equal.
President Sheffield
01:41:42All right, thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:41:45The next caller is Janae
Speaker 35
01:41:50Hi, good morning Council. My name is Janelle Fraser and I am a resident of district three and I am in support of the land value tax. And I believe that it is going to enhance our neighborhoods and also support green spaces in the city. So I am in support of that. So thank you so much for your time.
President Sheffield
01:42:11All right. Thank you
Speaker 19
01:42:15the next caller is fool forward.
President Sheffield
01:42:26Morning
President Sheffield
01:42:34Good Morning. Are you there with us? Alright, if we can come back to this caller please.
Speaker 19
01:42:47Okay, the next caller is phone number ending in one two for
President Sheffield
01:42:55the morning caller 124.
Unknown Speaker
01:43:02Yes, good morning. Can you hear me?
President Sheffield
01:43:05Yes, we can. Good morning.
Speaker 36
01:43:07Okay, well, first of all, my guess was that people who said they weren't supportive the land value tax plan. I have not read it. I still don't see it on the city's web page. I did just find it on. Representative Stephanie Young's office but everybody remember, this mayor is a failed Mayor per his own measurements. Remember he said measured success by whether more people move in or move out. Like read between the lines. He's always been concerned about the land. He's more concerned about the land and the actual people here because you don't attract people here but just by having a little bit lower. Taxes you attract people hear by having good schools, open recreation centers, libraries, good services, not offices that closed at noon, and you're lucky that people call back. We're out of the pandemic and responsive government so please don't fall for The Bamboozle acts here. They haven't fixed the $600 million overtaxation do.
President Sheffield
01:44:13All right. Thank you.
Speaker 19
01:44:16The next caller is Michelle Jackson.
President Sheffield
01:44:24Morning Dave Jackson.
Speaker 37
01:44:26Can you guys hear me? Yes. Thank you so much. I just would like to say thank you to the three folks who gave questions this morning on the tax land value. You Mary waters and Callaway. Oh and also forgive me my own. John said. Well, I would like to say I've come around been here the land bank. I've actually sent out information emails. Mary Sheffield, I sent something to your office it was sent back to me to say this is not your district. I sent it because I've had issues with the land bank since the land bank, building the land bank, just like the lady prior to. I've bid it five times on property in my area. And in my area. I haven't been able to get any of the properties. Some of the properties that's been so are empty. No one is actually living in that. I've been to the financial folks at the land bank to city engagement at the land bank.
President Sheffield
01:45:35All right. Thank you so much. I'm not exactly sure what happened in that situation. If you are not in our district, we are always more than welcome to have to help you. But we do also like to loop in the district representative of as well. So if you want to send that to us again, we will be more than happy to assist but also respectfully loop in your district council person is Well, thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:45:59The next caller is Vanessa B. A.
Speaker 38
01:46:04I'm in District Six and core city I'm calling in support of the bill but we'd like to see an amendment where people's parcels that they're using to extend their backyard are excluded. I know many people in my neighborhood have a vacant lot beside their house that they use for their backyard and to see that as an amendment. I would like to say I'm in support of this because Detroit is actually one of the only cities in the US where you can actually buy a house without going into debt for decades. And I think this bill will help more people move here from other states which means a bigger tax base in general, which I believe is the direction that the city of Detroit would like to go in. I feel like it's unfortunate that the councillors are trying to denigrate the bill by trying to say that it doesn't fix all of the traits ills. I would encourage the councillors now to propose a rent control bill as the next step.
Unknown Speaker
01:47:09Thank you so much. Let's call her please.
Unknown Speaker
01:47:12The next caller is Miko a Williams.
Speaker 16
01:47:15Go a Williams The floor is yours. Yes. Hi, good morning Council. I am in opposition to the land value tax after all, of the questions that I've heard of today and they're not properly answered. We all know the land bank is a scam. They are the biggest scum, lords of the city. They don't pay no water bills, they pay no taxes, and also it benefits those from the outside. You cannot trust what this mayor says. But again, I would like to say thank you to the women of city council. October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month and strong women lead strong communities and they display power. Most definitely I would like to also say that we should be concerned we should for our city residents to look after them. It's already October you should be paying your damn water bill. Since you are already at the Aretha on the river boat and you haven't even handled your responsibilities. You should pay your property taxes today.
Unknown Speaker
01:48:16Thank you for taking my comment. Call me please.
Speaker 19
01:48:23The next caller is Annie O'Byrne,
Speaker 16
01:48:27any O'Byrne The floor is yours one minute, general public comment.
Speaker 39
01:48:32Thank you, counsel for taking my call. And thank you all who asked questions on the land value tax. They they were good questions and there's many many more about it and so many more that quite frankly it should go down in flames. I am against the land value tax. I am the president of the Springdale Woodmere block club of resident association of 1500 plus houses in southwest Detroit. And we haven't fixed overtax assessments. We haven't fixed overtaxing we, it's it's an end round around. You know in the name of encouraging development. It's an N brown around community benefits. It it there's just so many flaws. It's disgusting. And we're waiving the Oh will lower your taxes flag you know as a lie. We need it needs to be fixed it needs to be stopped in the land bank needs to be at 60 and also go down and flame
President Sheffield
01:49:42right thank you
Speaker 19
01:49:46and the the last caller who had raised their hand before public comment had been cut off is so forward Arnie
President Sheffield
01:50:04Good morning so forth well.
President Sheffield
01:50:36Okay, I'm sorry so far and are you there? All right, going once, going twice. And we appreciate you. If you would like to just submit your comments to the clerk's office and we will put that on public record. What is the lady's name is the we have a caller named Renetta who has her hand raised. Ari.
Speaker 19
01:51:03I do not unless she's under I don't I don't see her with her handwriting. So I'm looking to see if she is in an attendee I do not see that person.
President Sheffield
01:51:17All right. Thank you. All right. We will now end our general public comment again. Thank you for those who came down and those who call them virtually and we will now proceed to our agenda for this morning.
President Sheffield
01:51:36Understanding committee reports for the budget Finance and Audit standing committee from the Office of contracting and procurement
Speaker 9
01:51:43councilmember Santiago Romero or resolution line item 16.1.
President Sheffield
01:51:49Right Council Member Santiago rimuru.
Unknown Speaker
01:51:52Motion to approve.
President Sheffield
01:51:55Madam Clerk, are you going to read the contract?
Speaker 9
01:51:58Yes. Contract numbers 6005615 100%. City funding to perform annual actual reserve analysis of the Workers Compensation exposure by and for the city of Detroit contract there was Pinnacle actuarial Resources Incorporated. total contract amount 50,000. That's for the officer the Chief Financial Officer.
President Sheffield
01:52:25All right, Councilmember Santiago mural has already moved this for approval. Are there any objection of any objections on 16.1? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved from the Office of the Chief Financial Office Office of the assessor
Speaker 9
01:52:43councilmember Santiago Romero. For resolutions line item 16.2 through 16.5.
President Sheffield
01:52:51Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Speaker 40
01:52:54Thank you Madam President motion to approve 16.2 through 16 points five. These are all various pilot applications.
President Sheffield
01:53:03motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing none, the four resolutions will be approved President.
Unknown Speaker
01:53:15Yes, of course. Today
Unknown Speaker
01:53:16we're on line item 16.4.
President Sheffield
01:53:19a waiver has been requested for 16.4 Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the Office of the Chief Financial Officer Office of Development and grants.
Speaker 9
01:53:33Councilmember Santiago Romero a resolution line item 16.6
President Sheffield
01:53:39Councilmember Santiago Romero.
Speaker 40
01:53:42Thank you, Madam President. Motion to approve. And this is to accept an appropriate the protecting Michigan pension grant.
President Sheffield
01:53:51Any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved from the Office of the Chief Financial Officer Office of Budget.
Speaker 9
01:54:03Councilmember Santiago Romero two resolutions line item 16.7 through 16.8.
President Sheffield
01:54:10Councilmember Santiago Romero.
Speaker 40
01:54:13Motion to approve. 16.7 is the debt service and bond proceeds 16.8 is state of Michigan protected Michigan conditions
President Sheffield
01:54:27grant any objections? Hearing no objections the two resolutions will be
Speaker 40
01:54:37approved. Madam president yes requesting a waiver for 16.6 or 16.8.
President Sheffield
01:54:44waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken.
Speaker 9
01:54:50Madam President propoint member through you the members. Remember you requested a waiver for 16 points six through 16.8. Thank you. Thank you.
President Sheffield
01:55:03The Office of the city clerk City Planning Commission,
Speaker 9
01:55:06Councilmember Santiago Romero three resolutions line item 16.9 through 16 point 11.
President Sheffield
01:55:14Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Speaker 40
01:55:16Thank you Madam President. Motion to approve. These are all various and easy to get applications.
President Sheffield
01:55:23Any objections? Hearing none the three resolutions will be approved. Madam President. Yes, member Johnson.
Unknown Speaker
01:55:32I'd like to request a waiver on line item 16.2.
President Sheffield
01:55:38waiver has been requested for 16.2 Hearing no objections that action will be taken.
President Sheffield
01:56:01Are the internal operations standing committee from the Office of contracting and procurement
Speaker 9
01:56:06council member Jackson a resolution line item 17.1 Just contract number 3069296 100%. City funding to provide 12 Motorola portable two way radios for election staff utilize them ideal contract number 190000001544. Contractor Motorola Solutions Incorporated total contract amount $48,451.32 And that is for three elections. Mr. Johnson resolution.
President Sheffield
01:56:43Member Johnson.
Unknown Speaker
01:56:44Thank you, Madam President Move for approval.
President Sheffield
01:56:48Any objections? Hearing none, the one resolution will be approved from the law department
Speaker 9
01:56:58councilmember Jackson two resolutions, line item 17.2 and 17.3.
President Sheffield
01:57:05Councilmember Jensen
Speaker 7
01:57:07Thank you madam president Move for approval. These are two settlement offers
President Sheffield
01:57:13any objections? Hearing no. Objections. The two resolutions will be approved for the Planning and Economic Development standing committee from the Office of the Chief Financial Officer Office of Development and grants.
Speaker 9
01:57:30Council President Pro Tem James Tate are resolution line items 18.10.
Speaker 16
01:57:35Tim take a present president move approval of line item 18.1.
President Sheffield
01:57:43Any objections This is the acceptance of the Our Town grant. Hearing no objections the one resolution will be approved. From the City Planning Commission,
Speaker 9
01:57:58council president pro tem James Tate and introduction of an ordinance line item 18.2.
Speaker 16
01:58:06Protein tape or president I move that the ordinance be read twice by title ordered printed and laid on the table.
President Sheffield
01:58:14Airy No objections that action will be taken.
President Sheffield
01:58:25From the City Planning Commission,
Speaker 9
01:58:27council president pro tem James Tate a resolution setting the public hearing line item 18.30. Tim take
Speaker 16
01:58:35my president moved to approve line item 18.34 day to be the
President Sheffield
01:58:43motion has been made or the scheduling of a public hearing Hearing no objections the resolution will be approved. From the City Planning Commission
Speaker 9
01:58:54council president pro tem James take the introduction of an ordinance line item 18.4
President Sheffield
01:58:59Pro Tem tape
Speaker 16
01:59:01president I move that the ordinance be read twice by title order printed and laid on the table.
President Sheffield
01:59:08Hearing no objections. That action will be taken from the City Planning Commission.
Speaker 9
01:59:15Council President Pro Tem James Tate or resolution setting the public hearing line item 18.5.
President Sheffield
01:59:22Pro Tem take
Speaker 16
01:59:23my present move approval of line item 18.5 for date to be determined.
President Sheffield
01:59:28Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the City Planning Commission.
Speaker 9
01:59:35Council President Pro Tem James take a resolution line item 18.6.
President Sheffield
01:59:41Prototype.
Speaker 16
01:59:42president I move approval line item 18.6 80.6
President Sheffield
01:59:45is the extension of review period for chapter 50 map amendments. Are there any objections? Hearing none of the one resolution will be approved
President Sheffield
02:00:07from the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority
Speaker 9
02:00:10council president pro tem James take two resolutions line item 18.7 and 18.80.
President Sheffield
02:00:17Tim Tate,
Speaker 16
02:00:19President move approval of line items 18.7 and 18.8. Please.
President Sheffield
02:00:26motion has been made. Are there any objections to 18.7 or 18.8? Hearing none, the two resolutions will be approved. And Pro Tem if we can get a waiver for 18.7.
Speaker 16
02:00:44The President requested waiver for 18.8 and 18.7. Please.
President Sheffield
02:00:51All right Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the housing and revitalization department.
Speaker 9
02:00:58Council President Pro Tem James take four resolutions line item 18.9 through 18 point 12
President Sheffield
02:01:06or 20
Speaker 16
02:01:07Oh president a move approval of line items 18.9 through 18 point 12.
President Sheffield
02:01:15motion has been made are there any objections?
President Sheffield
02:01:23Right Hearing no objections the four resolutions will be approved. The Planning and Development Department
Speaker 9
02:01:34council president pro tem James take two resolutions line item 18 point 13 and 18 point 14
President Sheffield
02:01:42potentate,
Speaker 16
02:01:43president and move approval of line items 13 point 13 and 18 point 14 Please.
President Sheffield
02:01:49Right both of these are property sales. Any objections? Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be approved
Speaker 16
02:02:01and President Pro Tem request for a waiver or excuse me request for a waiver online under 18. Point 14
President Sheffield
02:02:09Please. Any objections? Hearing none, that action will be taken. Under resolutions
Speaker 9
02:02:20pass the president pro tem James Tate or resolution line item 18 point 50
President Sheffield
02:02:26or 20% in
Speaker 16
02:02:27the move approval of line item 18 point 15.
President Sheffield
02:02:31All right. And do you have the date scheduled?
Speaker 16
02:02:32Yes ma'am. date is set for October 19 at 10:35am for the public hearing regarding the secondary sign of street applications in PE D.
President Sheffield
02:02:45All right. motion has been made for the scheduling of a public hearing, Hearing no objections that resolution will be approved. From the public health and safety standing committee from the Office of contracting and procurement
Speaker 9
02:03:01councilmember Santiago Romero 26 resolutions, noting that line item 19.6 was reported out of committee with recommendation to deny and also Madam President and has been brought to our attention that line item 19 point 18 was approved at last week formal session. So we will question for that item to be removed.
President Sheffield
02:03:25Right Is there a motion? Let's go to 19 point 18.
President Sheffield
02:03:42Right, Councilmember subcategory 00 motion to remove 19 2018 This is an abatement and demolition for 14 properties by the Gordie Howe bridge that was approved during our last session. So moved. All right Hearing no objections, we will remove line item 90 point 18 And Madam Clerk
Speaker 9
02:04:03and that brings us to Madam President. We have a total of 25 resolutions noting that 19.6 was reported out of committee with recommendation to deny line item 19.1 Contract Number 60055 to seven 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G to sa 24 properties contractor BDM transport LLC total contract amount $111,877.50 cent less for city demolition line item 19.2 contract numbers 60055 to six 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out released G group G one S A 24 properties contractor PMP group incorporated total contract amount $130,200 That's for city demolition. Country contract number 6005539 100% bond funding to provide proposal in trash out released G group G 1225 properties contractor cleaning up Detroit City LLC total contract amount $99,750 City demolition line line 19.4 contract numbers 6005536 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G 1125 properties contractor staffing equipment evolution LLC total contract amount $92,925 That's for city demolition 19 19.5 Contract Number 605535 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out released G group G 10 s a 25 properties contractor b d m transport LLC total contract amount $99,408.75 cent city demolition line item 19.6 Contract Number 6005534 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trashed out released G group G nine s a 25 properties contract or BDM transport LLC total contract amount $102,165. That's for city demolition. line item 19.7. Contract Number 6005530 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out released G group G five s a 24 properties contractor PNP group incorporated total contract amount $136,710 That's for city demolition. line item 19.8 contract numbers 6005532 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G seven s a 25 properties contractor Artie contracting LLC total contract amount $102,795. City demolition line item 19.9 Contract Number 6005531 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out released G group G 623. Properties contractor first choice hauling LLC total contract amount $94,185. As for city demolition nine out of 19 point 10 Contract Number 605529 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G for S A 25 properties contractor PMP group incorporated total contract amount $135,135 That's the city demolition line item 19 point 11 contract numbers 6005528 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G three S A 24 properties contractor PMP group incorporated total contract amount $129,150 City demolition line item 19 point well, contract number 6005540 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out release G group G 1324 properties contractor g n IC incorporated total contract amount $52,631.25 cent less for construction and demolition. Nine out of 19 point 13 Contract Number 6005533 100% bond funding to provide proposal and trash out released G group G 824 properties contractor being Youth Institute incorporated total contract amount $86,821.88 cent that's for construction and demolition line item 19 point 14 contract numbers 6005657 100% are pro funding to provide abatement and alteration of seven commercial structures G farming group 215 contractor farm rich wrecking corporated doing business as high average total contract amount $5,050,485 That's for construction and demolition line item 19 point 15 contract numbers 6005656 100% Arper funding to provide abatement and alteration of seven commercial structures group 214 contractor hemorrhage wrecking incorporated doing business as hemorrhage total contract amount $2,669,755 That's for construction and demolition. line item 19 point 16 Contract Number 6005655 100% arpa funding to provide abatement and alteration of seven commercial structures, route 213 contractor harm rich wrecking incorporated doing business as harm rich total contract amount $3,185,380 That's for construction and demolition line item 19.7. Contract Number 6005658 100%. ARPA funding to provide abatement and alteration of eight commercial structures group 216 contractor Adeyemo demolition company total contract amount $2,858,610.70 cent that's for construction and demolition line item 19 point 90 Contract Number 6004803 100% Solid Waste funding to provide break fix repair services for illegal dumping cameras, contractor accurate networks LLC total contract amount 30,000 nests for public works. line item 19 point 20 Contract Number 3069131 100% city funding to provide outbound and inbound messaging services for DPW citizens communications contractor car soft Technology Corporation total contract amount $91,338 That's for public works. Mine on a 19 point 21 Contract Number 3068650 100% city funding to provide an emergency demolition for the residential property 19130 Chester contractor guy Yanga company total contract amount $19,850 That's for construction. And demolition line item 913 point 22 Contract Number 306866 to 100% special revenue funding to provide one flatbed Tow Truck contractor interstate truck source incorperate incorporated total contract amount $160,837.11 That is for police line item 19 point 23 Contract Number 3069049 100% special revenue funding to provide three flatbed tow trucks contractor interstate truck source incorporated total contract amount $503,984.40 cent that is for police line item 19 point 24 Contract Number 3069098 100% city funding to provide the activation fee for 250 new and or replacement radios on the Michigan Public Safety Communication System in PSCs. Contractor State of Michigan total contract amount $62,500. That's for police line item 19 point 25 Contract Number 600 by two to three 100% arpa funding to provide vehicle uplifting services for 25 Detroit Police Department vehicles contractors can feel equipment Services Incorporated total contract amount $117,298.75 That is for police last contract 19.26 Contract numbers 6005291 100% our pro funding to provide vehicle uplifting services for 25 Detroit Police Department vehicles contractor ABS storage products total contract amount $148,254 That is for police council members Santiago Romero 25 resolutions
President Sheffield
02:15:06right. Thank you so much. Madam Clerk. Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Speaker 40
02:15:12Thank you Madam President. And yes, thank you Madam Clerk. I motion to approve 19.1 through 19 point 13. These are all props and trash out contracts.
President Sheffield
02:15:23motion has been made. Are there any objections?
Speaker 3
02:15:29Objection, Madam Chair and discussion. Okay, Councilmember Callaway Madam Chair for line item 19.6. I think that are we at 19.6 Yeah, like Okay,
President Sheffield
02:15:41I think next year. Yeah. Thank
Speaker 3
02:15:43you, Madam Madam Chair. A recommendation to deny 19.6. Then, at my question is why we recommend just to the committee chair the recommendation to deny at 90 You can't do that I was looking at
President Sheffield
02:15:59she said discussion. Okay, maybe I did golf at the same time, but I know she did say discussion. So
Speaker 3
02:16:09forums for asking for discussion and my order order. No real. Okay, Madam Chair. May I proceed? As I was asking the chair, there was a recommendation tonight according to the clerk for life line item 19.6 is almost a similar contract is line item 19.5. So I'm wondering, remember, catalyst 19 point 16 was the recommendation is that okay? So there's not a motion to deny for line item 19.6. Okay, thank you, Madam Chair.
President Sheffield
02:16:42All right. Thank you member, Callaway. So, Councilmember Santiago Ramiro moves 19.1 through 19 point 13 And there was no recommendations to deny for any of these. Okay, thank you. Are there any objections to these contracts? All right, hearing none the resolutions will be approved. And then councilmember Santiago Romero.
Speaker 40
02:17:08Thank you, Madam President. I'm going to request to postpone at 19 Point 14 through 19 point 17. We have been asked to postpone this for one week by the director 19 point or T through 19. Point 17 are all various ARPA contracts for construction and demolition departments. These are the contracts that came out of committee with the recommendation to deny, frankly because committee members and majority of the committee members there do not feel comfortable with the usage of ARPA funding for these services. Of course, we all have our right to vote how we would like but I do believe the director wants to discuss with council members if they have any concerns regarding this contract. So she's asking to postpone 19 point 14 and 19 point 17 for one week.
President Sheffield
02:17:59All right. Discussion. Any comments or concerns with allowing one additional week to speak with the director regarding these contracts? Okay. All right, Hearing no objections, we will postpone 19 point 14 through 19 point 17 for one week. Remember Member Santiago Romero?
Speaker 40
02:18:21Thank you Madam President motion to approve 19 point 18 through 19 point 24 I believe we remove 19 point 18 to use me so I motion to approve 19 point 19 through 19 point 24
President Sheffield
02:18:35All right motion has been made any discussion on these contracts 19 point 19 through 19 point 24. Hearing no discussion, motion has been made for approval. And if there are no objections these resolutions will be
Speaker 40
02:18:55approved. Madam President. Yes. A few waivers to request the first waiver. I'm requesting this for 19 point 1919 point 19 is regarding the repairs for dumping cameras in 19 Point 20 for the radios for public safety communication.
President Sheffield
02:19:18Right motion has been made for a waiver when 19 point 19 and 19 point 24. Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Thank you Madam President Pro Tilty
Speaker 16
02:19:30Thank you, Madam President. I know we don't like to get too far away from the item so I apologize but like to request a waiver on line item 18 point 12. That was the item that dealt with the revised awards for CDBG own in various other funding requests for waiver
President Sheffield
02:19:48please. Motion has been made. Hearing no objections, we will approve that attachment of a waiver
Speaker 41
02:19:58plus a waiver lines 19.25 and 19.26.
President Sheffield
02:20:02motion has been made for a waiver we haven't got that far right. Yes. Wait.
Speaker 40
02:20:09We stopped at you haven't started back in 2008. We're now in 25.
President Sheffield
02:20:20Remember Santiago Romero
Speaker 40
02:20:22Thank you Madam President. Motion to approve 19 point 25 and 19 point 26. These are both various police ARPA contracts.
President Sheffield
02:20:36Alright discussion, any discussion of discussion? Okay. Remember Calloway?
Speaker 3
02:20:41Madam Chair for 19 point 25. If I'm not mistaken. I'm going to move to bring this back. Because I have a couple questions. This is the same contractor that I do believe received about $11 million through neighborhoods for some other contracts. So I'm wondering why are they back before us $417,000 contracts. So I would respectfully move that. We bring this back in a week so I can get my questions answered regarding 19 point 25 And this contractor that's in Warren, Michigan.
President Sheffield
02:21:15Okay, any further discussion on 19 point 25 Is request to postpone for one week. Hearing no objections we will postpone 19 point 25 for one week. Any additional discussion on 19 point 26. This was also moved out without a recommendation. Okay, this was moved out. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. motion has been made for approval for 19 point 26. Are there any objections
Unknown Speaker
02:21:48objection?
President Sheffield
02:21:50The clerk would no
Unknown Speaker
02:21:52circle so Nope. None president.
President Sheffield
02:21:55Any additional objections for 19 point 26. Hearing no additional objections the resolution will be approved.
Unknown Speaker
02:22:06Social waiver lighting point two six
President Sheffield
02:22:10a waiver has been requested for 19 point 26 Any objections to a waiver? Right Hearing none that action will be taken. We will now move to the new business portion of the agenda under unfinished business.
Speaker 9
02:22:27Councilmember Benson and ordinance note in a roll call line item 20.1.
President Sheffield
02:22:32Councilmember Benson
Speaker 41
02:22:34I moved to take from the table an ordinance to amend chapter 31 Detroit city code offenses article 13 weapons by many Division One generally section 31 Tech 13 tech one definitions and division two firearms section 31 Tech 13 Tech 26. weapon possession prohibited exception and section 31 Tech 13 Tech 27 disposition of firearms exception to regulate possession and disposition of firearms in certain circumstances lay on the table September 19 2023.
President Sheffield
02:23:10Very No objections that action will be taken. Councilmember Benson
Speaker 41
02:23:15I move the ordinance be placed on the order Third Reading and considered read
President Sheffield
02:23:21Hearing no objections. That action will be taken. Councilmember Benson discussion? All right discussion.
Speaker 41
02:23:28All right. Thank you. You just want to thank my colleagues and hopefully they will be supportive of this. This is an amendment in update to the sergeant Elaine Williams ordinance which allows for the police department to add another tool in their toolbox. To remove weapons from those who've been convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors. This is simply an update to ensure that this board and it's the only one the state of Michigan complies with federal and state laws that have changed the order to be passed as submitted.
President Sheffield
02:24:01All right, thank you, Mr. Benson's there being a roll call required with the clerk please call the roll.
Unknown Speaker
02:24:08Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway. Yes. Council President Mary Sheffield. Yes. Councilmember Scott Benson. Yes. Councilmember Leticia Johnson. Yes. Councilmember Gabriela? Santiago Romero. Yes. Council President Pro Tem James Tate. Yes. Councilmember Mary waters.
Unknown Speaker
02:24:34Yes. Seven
Unknown Speaker
02:24:35yeas, zero nays That motion passes.
President Sheffield
02:24:37The ordinance is approved. Council member Benson move the title to the ordinance be confirmed. Hearing no objections that action will be taken
Unknown Speaker
02:24:47motion recommend. request a waiver
President Sheffield
02:24:51waiver has been requested. Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Thank you remember Benson from the Office of contracting and procurement
Speaker 9
02:25:00councilmember Santiago Romero, two resolutions, nine items 20.2 to 20.3
President Sheffield
02:25:07Member Santiago Ramiro,
Unknown Speaker
02:25:09motion to approve.
Speaker 9
02:25:13line item 20.2 Contract Number 6005373 100% capital funding to provide design build services for the H vac system for Detroit Public Library contractor Limbach company LLC. total contract amount 4 million. That's for construction and demolition. line item 20.3. Contract Number 6003388 Dash eight to amendment to 100% city funding to provide an increase of funds for H back services. For various city facilities. Contractor system Corporation total contract amount 4,000,400 for 400,000. That's for construction and demolition. Councilmember Santiago Romero two resolutions.
President Sheffield
02:26:02Councilmember Santiago Amuro.
Unknown Speaker
02:26:05Moved for approval will cancel council president
President Sheffield
02:26:08okay up. Thank you. Motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections the two resolutions will be approved.
Unknown Speaker
02:26:19First away from line 20.2.
President Sheffield
02:26:23waiver has been requested for 20.2 Hearing no objections that action will be taken. From the law department,
Speaker 9
02:26:34Councilmember Besson and introduction of an ordinance line item 20.4.
President Sheffield
02:26:39Councilmember Benson
Speaker 41
02:26:41the ordinance be rich faced by title order printed and laid on the table.
President Sheffield
02:26:47Hearing no objections. That action will be taken from the law department.
Speaker 9
02:26:55Councilmember Benson a resolution setting the public hearing line item 20.5.
President Sheffield
02:27:01Awesome member Benson.
Unknown Speaker
02:27:03Motion to set public hearing TBD.
President Sheffield
02:27:06motion has been made for the scheduling of a public hearing, Hearing no objections that action will be taken from the Office of the Chief Financial Office officer Office of Development and grants.
Speaker 9
02:27:23How Sumerpur Santiago Ramiro three resolutions line items 20.6 through 20.8
President Sheffield
02:27:30Councilmember Santiago Ramiro.
Speaker 40
02:27:33Thank you Madam President, motion to approve items 20.6 through 20.8. These are all various grant applications for acceptance as well.
President Sheffield
02:27:46Any objections? Hearing no objections, the three resolutions will be approved,
Speaker 40
02:27:54Madam President, yes, request a waiver for 20.7 and 20.8.
President Sheffield
02:28:02waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken.
Unknown Speaker
02:28:08We're blown 20.6
President Sheffield
02:28:11motion has been made for a waiver for 20.6 Hearing no objections. That action will be taken. From the Department of Public Works city engineering division
Speaker 9
02:28:25councilmember Santiago Roberto a resolution line item 20.94 Member
President Sheffield
02:28:31Santiago Ramiro.
Speaker 40
02:28:32Thank you Madam President. Motion to approve. This is a petition from downtown Detroit partnership to display their holiday lease
President Sheffield
02:28:42any objections? Hearing no objections. The resolution will be approved.
Unknown Speaker
02:28:48request a waiver Madam President,
President Sheffield
02:28:51waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
02:28:58First a waiver allowed to play point three
President Sheffield
02:29:02motion has been made for a waiver on 20.3. Any objections? Hearing none, that action will be taken under resolutions,
Speaker 9
02:29:22Councilmember Besant joined by Council President Mary Sheffield a resolution line item 20 point 10.
President Sheffield
02:29:30Councilmember Benson motion to approve. motion has been made for approval and this is a resolution in support of water affordability bills sponsored by Senator Stephanie Chang. The objections Hearing no objections the resolution will be approved
Unknown Speaker
02:29:51Madam Chair, can we need to join that resolution as well?
President Sheffield
02:29:55And the name of the council? Alright Madam Clerk, if we can please put this in the name of the council but our call do So Madam President. Okay. Thank you. Thank you colleagues. Under resolutions,
Speaker 9
02:30:08Councilmember Johnson a resolution noting a roll call line item 20 point 11.
President Sheffield
02:30:15Councilmember Johnson
Unknown Speaker
02:30:17Thank you, Madam President Move for approval with discussion.
President Sheffield
02:30:20Okay, discussion member Johnson.
Speaker 7
02:30:21Thank you, Madam President. I just wanted to identify is what this is today, and we already had a closed session scheduled for today. Is this just for a different flow session?
Speaker 41
02:30:36Through the Chair Graham Anderson law department. Yes, you are correct. Councilwoman Johnson. This was voted on and approved I believe three weeks ago. And the reason for this appearing on the agenda again, and let me thank the clerk's office for being incredibly flexible and talented as always we caught this at the 11th hour last night that we actually had the wrong sergeants name internally circulated. If you look at our referrals 23.8 We had Sergeant James why next name listed on today's session instead of Sergeant Ernest Wilson. So that was the reason for putting this just across the T's dot the i's make sure we're doing everything properly. When we did reach out to the opposing counsel to provide notice of the closed session, the proper names were there. So the proper opposing counsel was notified. So we don't have to worry about anything like that. This is just for us perfecting the record here.
Unknown Speaker
02:31:35And thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President.
President Sheffield
02:31:39All right. Thank you. Motion has been made for approval. Are there any objections? I need a roll call. I need a roll call of a roll call is required. Madam Clerk, please call the roll.
Speaker 9
02:31:53Married Sheffield President President Mary Sheffield pardon? Me? Yes. Councilmember Scott Benson. Yes. Councilmember Leticia Johnson. Yes. Councilmember Gabriela? Santiago Romero. Yes. Council President Pro Tem James say yes. Councilmember Mary waters. Yes. Councilmember Angela? Whitfield Callaway.
Unknown Speaker
02:32:21Yes. Seven yeas,
Unknown Speaker
02:32:23zero nays The motion passes.
President Sheffield
02:32:25All right. The resolution is approved. Under resolutions.
Speaker 9
02:32:30Customer member Mary waters a resolution line 20 point. Well,
President Sheffield
02:32:34Councilmember waters.
Unknown Speaker
02:32:36Thank you, Madam President Move approval.
President Sheffield
02:32:39motion has been made for approval. And this is recognizing October 11 as the International Day of the Girl child. Are there any objections? Hearing no objections, the resolution will be approved. Yes, ma'am. Request the waiver waiver has been requested, Hearing no objections that action will be taken. See, we have a member Callaway, do you want to be your walk on?
Speaker 3
02:33:09Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you. Our request. I don't know if it's the time to do it. Now to move light item 24 to 24.6 to new business. Scheduling a public hearing.
President Sheffield
02:33:27Yep, motion has been made to move line item 24.6 to new business for the scheduling. Of a public hearing. This is regarding the residential permit area for the brush cart community. Hearing no objections this will be added to new business, man I'm sure yes.
Speaker 42
02:33:48If I may. I believe 24.6 is actually for central brush Park. The documents that were passed out for you today are for southern brunch apart. So it may not appear on the agenda. But it was in it was scheduled to be in neighborhoods Committee last week. So I think it should import from that agenda.
President Sheffield
02:34:07Okay, so do we need to move 24.6 to new business as well or just the walk one that was submitted?
Unknown Speaker
02:34:13Just a walk on that was submitted on go through committee this week.
President Sheffield
02:34:16Okay. All right. So Dr. Powers, what do we need to do? Consider, okay, their motion to reconsider motion. Motion has been made Hearing no objections that action will be taken. And now she needs to restate the motion. Dr. Bowers. Is there a motion to send new business? Is there a motion to send 24.6 to new business and we all should vote no. Motion has been made. Any objections? So he has no objection at the cargo note.
Speaker 9
02:34:51Lavinia is dead Motion fails. Right, President
President Sheffield
02:34:55Thank you. Member Callaway, would you like to walk on this resolution?
Unknown Speaker
02:34:59So move Madam Chair.
President Sheffield
02:35:00Thank Hearing no objection. This is a resolution to set a public hearing for residential parking permit area for Bridge Park. Very No objections this will be sent to new business for a vote and Madam
Speaker 3
02:35:12Chair. We have a request before me that the public hearing be set for October the 19th. Okay, thank you Madam Chair.
President Sheffield
02:35:24Madam Clerk, did you want me to do the referrals first or you want to take up this? No,
Speaker 9
02:35:27we want we can take this right now president. All right, Madam Clerk. Also member Angela Whitfield Callaway a resolution.
President Sheffield
02:35:38Member Callaway.
Speaker 3
02:35:39Yes Madam Chair. To walk in. Just move for approval. Move for approval.
President Sheffield
02:35:46All right. motion has been made. Are there any objections? Hearing no. Objections the resolution will be approved.
President Sheffield
02:36:07Or the president's report when standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget Finance and Audit Standing Committee.
Speaker 17
02:36:13The reports were variously the purpose that the
President Sheffield
02:36:16reports will be referred to the budget Finance and Audit standing committee for the eternal raishin Standing Committee.
Unknown Speaker
02:36:23The team reports from Pharisee.
President Sheffield
02:36:26The third team reports will be referred to the internal operation standing committee or the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee
Unknown Speaker
02:36:34system for some various departments.
President Sheffield
02:36:38The six reports will be referred to the Neighborhood and Community Services standing committee or the Planning and Economic Development standing committee.
Unknown Speaker
02:36:47Well of course we variously the
President Sheffield
02:36:5112 reports will be referred to the planning economic development standing committee, Madam Chair. Yes, member Callaway.
Speaker 3
02:36:59Is this Are we at line item 25.1 25.1
President Sheffield
02:37:03was a part of his group. Yes,
Speaker 3
02:37:07I moved to remove this from the agenda today, Madam Chair.
President Sheffield
02:37:12Thank you. All right. motion has been made to remove this from the referrals at this time. 25.1 I know you're still working in the community on this particular project. Yes. Are there any objections? Only 5.1 This was being referred to the Planning and Development Committee. Very low objections, we will remove this from the agenda and from the referrals. So 11 reports will be referred to the Planning and Economic Development standing committee. For the public health and safety standing committee
Speaker 9
02:37:52system calls from various city departments.
President Sheffield
02:37:56The six reports will be referred to the public health and safety Standing Committee under the consent agenda.
Unknown Speaker
02:38:03There are no others Madam President. We will now move for memory forms.
President Sheffield
02:38:13Awesome President Pro Tem Tate.
Speaker 16
02:38:18President we were over at Coleman a young element entry last Wednesday. We had the test results back navigation for counting day welcoming the kids as we know count Day is a very important day in terms of the amount of funding that students receive in public school systems. 90% of their funding is determined by how many show up on the first Tuesday excuse me first Wednesday in October. So we had a partnership with a couple of other entities to make sure that that day was special for them. They had an opportunity to talk about it and we've just got to figure out how to keep our kids in the classrooms on every day and not just that day. I don't put that solely on the responsibility of instructors and teachers. They do a lot. They are a host of things for these children. We've got to turn that responsibility on us as a community including, of course the number one group of folks that are responsible are the parents. But as a community, we have to identify this issue because we're seeing absenteeism grow throughout the city of Detroit throughout this country, to be honest with you and we are challenged in ensuring that our children are educated in the way that they need to be with this new economy that we have going on in the economy in general. So just wanted to give a shout out to principals Scott, as well as all of the students over at Coleman a young, elementary, the warriors, again, go warriors. We had a great time and we will see you very soon with our next collaboration. Thank you.
President Sheffield
02:39:51Thank you potentate
Speaker 16
02:39:53and thank the men who came out as well. We have more than 50 men who came out and greeted the young people in the morning. So thank them as well. All the men of the task was like no engagement.
President Sheffield
02:40:02Thank you. All right. Thank you. Protune. Also, remember Santiago De Niro.
Speaker 40
02:40:07Thank you Madam President. For District Six residents just want to invite you all to our next community office hours. We are going to be joined by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development's and DTE, we're going to be at limit the Rec Center from four to 6pm on Monday, October 16. I also want to invite everyone to our next building power training series at American Indian Health and Family Services. On Wednesday, October 18, at 6pm We're going to be joined by doing development differently in Metro Detroit talking about community benefits. And lastly, invite everyone next Thursday, October 19 at 2pm. We're going to be at you and I for our next coffee hour.
President Sheffield
02:40:48Thank you Madam President. Thank you, Councilmember. Councilmember waters. Thank you,
Speaker 5
02:40:53Madam President. One of the first things I like to do is to offer a promotion to for city council to hear in person or via zoom however you do it on the state tax commission along with the Financial Review Commission regarding this proposed LVT that is that is my motion.
President Sheffield
02:41:18All right motion has been made. Any objections? Hearing none, that motion is approved.
Speaker 5
02:41:27Thank you. The state's tax commission and financial review skirmishes Yes yes.
President Sheffield
02:41:33Yeah, that that will be just so you know, member waters. We talked about having a for discussion and a committee of a whole okay, and that will probably the best opportunity to have the president that ticker media. No problem. Okay.
Speaker 5
02:41:45All right. So, the next thing I want to address this caller is who says, Well, you know, you're being disingenuous, as long as you don't have to put it on the ballot. Well, that is true. We don't but you know, I'm just one vote misusing that. Just want to point that out. What we've been trying to do and Lansing as member of this legislative body from one legislative body to another, we're just saying, you know, please allow us to submit some amendments, or to help improve this legislation. We are concerned about safeguards, and various protections for both homeowners and renters and those are the kinds of things that we've been trying to do. And also we've been pushing the amendment to give City Council have the power to abort if this when and if this should not work. We need that authority to do that. And basically the legislature has just been listening to the to the executive branch, you know, to the mayor's office, they don't give a dog on what city council has to say, but we are fiduciaries for this city. The state will be the first people to come down here and take over they've already robbed us of all of our assets in the first place. And then, you know, the next day they do they're going to take the rest of it, whatever that is, your land, whatever it may be. So we have to hold them accountable. And that is all that some of us have been trying to do. You know, begging them to work with us to put those kinds of safeguards in place, and Detroit is we have to insist we must insist on the burden of proof. When you have a proposal like this. Just say that you are from Missouri, the show me state. You want to be shown how this is going to help you prior to casting your vote. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm asking. And that's not a lot to ask. I want the voters to be truly armed with all of the necessary effort because this is a life changer. Don't don't make no mistake about it. Don't just get out there said I support this without asking the questions. Without having those who will propose this legislation to provide the burden of proof. And that's what what we're asking. All right. So having said all that next week, Tuesday is the at large meeting members Watterson young, it will be at the African American Museum on East Warren Avenue, and so is at 7pm. We certainly hope that you will come out and participate. Team waters will be highlighting Breast Cancer Awareness. That's one of the things that we want to do. I'm a breast cancer survivor myself, so I always look for an opportunity just to raise the level of awareness amongst black women in particular. All right, so thank you with that, Madam President. I appreciate it.
President Sheffield
02:44:57Thank you member waters member Johnson.
Speaker 7
02:45:01Thank you, Madam President on this past Sunday, it turned out to be a very busy one. Thank you to council president Sheffield and Councilmember waters for joining us in District Four to support the temporary workers at Jefferson North and the MEK engine plant that had been laid off by so Lantis and so we were just there encouraging them and letting them know that we continue to stay on with them. So thank you for being there. It was an extremely busy day I had the privilege of going to and shopping at the neighborhood grocer. The new store on Manistee week in Jefferson Chalmers. It has been opened by a young black man Raphael right who has been working so tenaciously on getting this grocery store open in the neighborhoods so that he could address food deserts starting there, so so ecstatic that he's been able to do that he was a recipient of Motor City match, and just so glad to be able to support him in his efforts and encourage everyone to do so he had a nice variety of items to choose from. It was a true grocery store. He had fresh produce frozen items, I actually bought some salmon patties that my husband enjoyed so is some great selections really thoughtful in the items that he carries. So would just like to encourage everyone to patronize the grocery store. It is our mana stake in Jefferson Chalmers near not far from the water. That is all that I have. Thank you, Madam President.
President Sheffield
02:46:48Thank you, member Johnson, Council Member Benson. Your report. Councilmember Callaway,
Speaker 3
02:46:53thank you Madam Chair. Real quick. I want to thank everyone who came out to our district to coffee and conversation yesterday morning at Trinity community Presbyterian Church at 4849 West outer drive and they celebrated their first 43rd anniversary on the previous Sunday. So thank everyone for coming out and special thanks to Deputy Chief Franklin Hayes. He joined us yesterday, yesterday morning as well to give us some updates on some things that are happening in district 12 I'm sorry district to creasing 12 And I also have for the 12 precinct you can drop off any unused medications pills only for safe disposal at the 12 precinct. The Northwest activity center and this is going to be on October the 28th from 10am to 2pm is called clean them out keep them safe and take them back. So again the 12 precinct is sponsoring the acceptance of unused medications pills only on October the 28th from 10am to 2pm at the 12th precinct on Seven Mile Road and then the Northwest activity center on Myers also want to thank everyone who came out for our October bike ride last night at Palmer Park was a lot of fun and we'll be doing it until the end of the month. Every Monday from six to 7pm and then our walk at Palmer park every Thursday from 8am to nine eight. And that is it for me Madam Chair. Thank you.
President Sheffield
02:48:22Thank you so much member Callaway for ma'am and reports. Just want to mention that tomorrow at 4pm. We will be over at the Martin Luther King homes for the grand reopening of the water may Ufa park that is the park los located right inside of the MLK homes. It is a park that I have been advocating for improvements to and glad to see that. Finally we have the improvements a brand new port and we'll be hosting a community celebration at the Martin Luther King's basketball court and park with the residents and with the management there and also with our General Services Department to celebrate the opening of that park. I know we oftentimes talk about the crime within the MLK community and one of the concerns that came out of that from residents was we need recreation. And so I have been advocating for improvements of our parks since I've been here so great celebration will take place tomorrow at 4pm or read the MLK homes at 4pm. Also tomorrow the industry standards boards will host its first meeting, the members will be sworn in and again the industry standards board will be focusing in on arena workers organizing arena workers. And so their first public meeting will take place tomorrow. There is a press conference, I think tomorrow at 10am that the SEIU was hosting just to celebrate and gain some momentum around the upcoming meeting that will take place later that day tomorrow. And then lastly we have our hoodie and coat giveaway that will take place October the 21st from 12 to three I told him playfield any questions concerns please reach out to our office but we will be giving away new coats, hoodies coats excuse me hoodies hats gloves, scarves etc for the winter is is our annual covering the community event that will take place again October the 21st 12 to three at tolon playfield. And that is all I have for member reports. So we will now proceed back to our agenda. On under adoption without committee reference,
Unknown Speaker
02:50:28there are no I was met a person is
President Sheffield
02:50:30under communications from the clerk
Unknown Speaker
02:50:32a report on a pool overseas by the mayor.
President Sheffield
02:50:37That report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions. And special privilege. Yeah, no,
Unknown Speaker
02:50:43I want my president. There being
President Sheffield
02:50:45no further business to come before this session. Today. We do have a 3pm closed session. This meeting will stand adjourned and everyone have a blessed day.