Lloyd it was very convoluted lots of rabbit thoughts there. But um, I think the, the groundwork essentially was laid for that way back when, like when I'm talking about, you know, deciding to get a philosophy degree, but then also deciding that I want to do something further. And that that doesn't have to just look like going into the field of philosophy only. How can this look differently? And how can I use what I have to keep moving? So way back when thinking about, you know, being in my graduate program for counseling, I had several professors tell me that they thought I would go into teaching one day, and I could tell him, no, no, no, I'm not interested in that. I don't think I'm gonna go back to school, after I'm done with this, this is enough school. And kind of putting it away and not thinking about it anymore for a while. And then being able to have the opportunity. Our friend, Dr. Joe Campbell, gave me the opportunity to adjunct for his program, interested in and realizing that I really love teaching, and that it's, you know, it's the next step for me, I'm really passionate about and really excited about it. And so how can I make it so that I can do more of that, and naturally, really are getting a PhD in counselor education, supervision is kind of the next step for that. But I kind of struggled with that, I think, deciding there were so many factors in deciding, you know, of course, financial, logistical, energy time, you know, I have a family, I have a house to run, I have a business to run. There were so many components of it. And the program that I wanted to go to originally was going to require a lot of travel back and forth, not that far away. But it would be a lot of back and forth travel, which would take time away from my family and my work. And then the, you know, the financial aspect of it. And I really went back and forth with that for a long time. And that was the main thing that had kept me from thinking about it before honestly. Just those details of how would this look for me, in my life, what would what would my quality of life be? How much time would I have for my family? Would I have time to work as much as it needed to? And like the workload itself? Thankfully, I have wonderful people who support me, you are one of them. Dr. Stephen gotay is another Dr. Joe Campbell's another and these people really talk to me about what it looks like be in a PhD program, what the workloads are, like, what their experiences were, how they navigated that during that time. And that gave me a lot of perspective about what was feasible, and what I could do. And so then, I decided, I guess, the beginning of this year, that this is something I really did want to pursue as a start trying to work on the application, which it felt kind of like a job itself. It was pretty intimidating. But I got it done. And that felt really, we weren't rewarding, I got accepted into the program at Cumberlands. And I was really nervous. It was very different than anything that I've you know, tried to do before with the way the other classes are structured. And I wasn't familiar with the the people that were working in the program or anything like that. So there was a lot of there was a lot of fear, I think into you know, being a perfectionist, I wanted everything to go perfectly and there was no assurance that that could happen. But I'm glad that I did it. And I'm glad that I'm going through it now. Sometimes I question the timing a little bit, but I do know that the goal that I'm looking for to be a full time teacher and counseling education, I know that that's what I want. And so that kind of keeps you moving forward when things are stressful.