So thanks so much for having me. And I'm excited to speak to such a group that's very interdisciplinary because it very much categorizes the research that I do. I'm going to speak today about CO creating counter narratives as a foundation for just planning and preservation. So why narratives and to kind of talk about why I sent her narratives in my work. It's helpful, I think, to read this quote by Toni Morrison. She says if my work is to confront a reality, unlike that received reality of the West, it must centralized an animate information discredited by the West, patient dismissed as lore or gossip, or magic or sentiment. And I would add, I will have to add information that's embedded in narratives, stories, oral tradition. So to give further context, in my work, I've worked professionally in urban planning and government administration. And a lot of my study is, while focused in African American settlements is more broadly, a study of anti blackness of sort of structural racism in public history and historic preservation. So when we look about look at narratives and why they're so pertinent to understanding anti blackness, we would be remiss if we didn't recognize that in the last six years, we've had some notable moments history Work shared historical moments in public history, work and history happening in public, and historic preservation. We have Charlottesville and 2017 1619 project and 2019, the murder of George Floyd in 2020, which all led to a heightened awareness of systemic racism, sexism, and anti blackness more specifically about when we talk about public space and public history. It's also important to examine the lack of recognition of historic spaces associated with people of color. Only 3% of the 96,000 properties on the National Register of Historic Places represent African American heritage, and they're very in proportion to predominantly white, historic local historic districts, much fewer African American and Anglo less than 6% of the National Park Service's 20,000 employees. American African Americans are less than 4% of academic archaeologists 5% of licensed architects and engineers, and those barriers to African American participation, a lack of compensation and validation of African Americans work and what they bring to the table. There's a lot of change that needs to happen in participatory planning and preservation that needs to validate the time and the local narratives and the value of what non experts bring to the table. And neighborhood change makes organizing around particular places often a challenge and difficult. So we have these kinds of structural reasons for a lack of visibility in the field, in the practice, in the process. And in the landscape of an oral tradition. When I use the word narrative. I also want to make sure I'm clear on what I mean. I'm speaking more broadly about oral tradition which comes in a number of forms storytelling testimony, group accounts, oral history, songs, reminiscence and memory. And under that we have personal memory, cognitive memory, and habit memory, which is very much embodied. And narrative forms also have a number of functions. In communities and in our everyday life. There are catalysts for particular actions, they often give us a proof of the resilience of community. They offer us theories of change. Why were we here and how did we get here? There are our practice stories are facilitate facilitate collaboration, create transparency. And the particular focus of my work has been on foundational stories, those stories that tell communities who they are in the process by which they were created and came about. We talk more structurally, about what narratives do in their sphere of influence in let's say, historic preservation, and even any land use planning processes. We have status narratives that shape net national identity and public history, we have narratives embedded in our public discourse that inform allocations of funding policymaking and advocacy. We have all manner of educational and recognition, statements and documentation that help define areas current historic context statements, for example, National Register designations are actually large. well researched documents that are embedded with a narrative of why a particular place site object building or set of structures in a landscape means something. We have ordinances, leadership, organizational cultures, insider, outsider status, determined are largely constructed through narrative and story. We also have dominant planning narratives to be more specific, that are common in how we shape our thinking, think about black communities. So this particular diagram, the source of the information for this diagram is my own experience teaching for several years, not teaching but rather, actually working in cities working for the city of Houston with city and county of Philadelphia. In some of these tropes or ideas that are dominant planning narratives, exercised in black communities. We seeking a one size fits all solution.