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Board of Police Commissioners, 5/15/2025

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Speaker 1

00:00

Cool. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker

00:15

Sure be right here,

Unknown Speaker

00:16

but I'm just kidding. Hey, hey, right, yeah,

Speaker 2

00:31

I would, I would do my best. I would do my best. This is what

Speaker 1

00:37

the memo, you know, the second one, no, that's just okay.

Unknown Speaker

00:46

Somebody has the real data.

Speaker 1

00:48

Okay, okay, so it's not okay. Okay,

Unknown Speaker

00:53

okay, thank you. All right, all right.

Speaker 2

01:00

Ready to roll

Unknown Speaker

01:07

if you are okay. Recording in progress

Speaker 3

01:11

today is May 15. It's 3pm the board of police commission meeting is called to order. We have invocation by Chaplain Roy Hill, via zoom,

Speaker 4

01:28

good afternoon. Can you all hear me? Yes, sir, alright. Thank you all. Let us pray most holy and righteous God. We come this afternoon first to say, thank you for your grace, thank you for your goodness and we thank You for Your Mercy, thank you for your kindness that you have shown all of us. We pray for our Board of Commissioners, not only for our commissioner, but we pray for the city of Detroit. We pray for the Detroit Police Department. Oh God, we ask that You would give every officer guidance and wisdom and protection. We pray according to Psalms 91 that they will in the secret place of the Most High. They pray collectively for the city of Detroit. We lift her up to you, and we pray that this will become a better place of peace, as in moving in the right direction. We pray for every family that dwells here that they will be prospered and healthy and protect protected. This is our prayer. We ask this prayer in the name of Jesus. And everyone said their heart, amen. Thank Amen, and have a good day. God bless you all. Thank you.

Speaker 3

02:48

Thank you. So we have commissioners that's in a route look like we will have a quorum. But in the meantime, we're going to, let's go into oral communications. And pending the commissioners coming in,

Speaker 5

03:09

Mr. Chairman, currently for oral communications, we have one person in two people in the audience. I'll call Deborah McCray, followed by Bernice Smith,

Unknown Speaker

03:21

thank you so much. Good

Speaker 6

03:26

afternoon to each and every one of you one year. God bless you all. God bless you. Since last time I was here, which was on the first speaking on how we say slum Lords with managers, how we call them office, not office. Map, the building managers that are retirees who have family members that break the law, they're now retaliating against me since I wasn't here last time speaking on the building manager who came in on me with another perp, I followed procedure and filed me a police report on B and E, but I didn't file one

on with the camera systems and everything they had in my home. They had camera systems and speakers. They removed some of them out, and I took pictures of some of the areas where they had they had in my bedroom, my bathroom, my living room, my kitchen. Right now, what I'm dealing with is other family members coming in and out, like they probably in my apartment right now. I'm not there is family members of that person who came in on my home, you know, uninvited, and I did follow proper procedure. How do I handle retaliation from other family members of a retired officer who broke the law, but he's hired by the company where I reside, Detroit, homes property management had real estate investments, and they're not here then Thailand Bangkok, but they have offices here where they hire people to manage their buildings and do surveillance. Surveillance go a little bit more past what they should like, I say, with cameras in your house instead of in the hallways and in the washrooms. How you having that with people retaliate against you when you stand up for us, right? And you haven't did anything wrong?

Unknown Speaker

05:10

I'm just trying to protect ourselves. Are you regular citizen?

Speaker 3

05:13

Are you done? Yes, sir. Okay, well, that's kind of over. That's not in my purview, you know, and I don't know if any other Commissioner want to respond to it, but you know, if you file reports and then you make complaints if you're not getting the service that you need, fires from the police department, the mechanism you could use is through the board of police commission or through OCI to file a complaint concerning any type of problems you may have with police officers. But we have no purview over retired officers, and we don't deal with criminal matters either, you know. So I'm not sure if we, if we can help you with anything, but if it's, if it's a complaint against a police officer, if you filed a complaint, that complaint will begin, it will get investigated. Thank you, sir. All right. Thank you. Thank you for Yep.

Unknown Speaker

06:18

Good afternoon to my police commissioners

Speaker 7

06:22

and to my chief, glad to see you. You did a good job the other night on the TV, as usual, I'm not surprised. I don't have too much to say. I wrote down what I wanted to say so I can be very plain and and let you know how I feel. All right, we're living in a state of destruction. Racial injustice is the black man's burden. We must pray and love and be peaceful. We can be co workers of God. We must end the crime in our city. Enough is enough. We must stop the shooting and killing of each other. There should be love and peace, not destroying our people. Parents check who your children associate with and know where their whereabouts are. A lot of them, I know they're not at home. I understand that, but still be and be interested in what they're doing, because it seemed like they're they're running a month here in our city by hijacking and shooting and doing things that we're not used to having done in our city. And all I got to say is, you have the power use it.

Speaker 5

08:01

We have an additional speaker in the room, Minister Eric blunt, good.

Speaker 8

08:16

Afternoon board. I'm Minister Eric blunt from Sacred Heart Catholic Church, for an afternoon.

Unknown Speaker

08:23

Chief Hayes doesn't know where I'm from.

Speaker 8

08:26

He grew up in the church Sacred Heart that is

Speaker 8

08:36

chairperson woods, again, just the the agenda shows the corruption. Why? Why this board honors any police officer is beyond me. And I mean that with all sincerity, we spend 1000s of dollars each year, sending most of you to Naco, right? I funded myself on my own credit card to see what Naco was all about. Naco is still saying the number one priority, the most important thing that an oversight board can do is be independent. But yet you still can't seem to get there. Somehow the police department has got you by the throat. That's the only thing I can think of. And I know there was another young man from Sacred Heart, a police officer was honored as police officer of the month. They had a big to do down at Motor City. He got $500 on a watch. They know how to award and promote good officers. They do it more than you and better than you, and they are not your employees. So why when Naco, you go there every year, the number one pillar, the number one principle, is independence. And yet this board says no, says no

Unknown Speaker

10:17

for the HR report,

Speaker 8

10:20

make some of it about police officer misconduct, who was suspended for? How long did their suspension take? Did they get their back paid? Because suspension really is discipline. You got two seconds, and discipline is meant to correct behavior, and if you don't know if the behavior is being corrected, your discipline is useless.

Speaker 5

10:46

Next speaker, Kelly Wilson, and then I believe we will go into zoom.

Speaker 9

10:53

Hello, commissioners. Hello. How you doing? I'm doing well on March 19, 2011 my brother Tyrone birch was shot and killed in the alley on Finkel impressed. The investigation resulted in conclusions numerous factual inconsistencies, procedural irregularities and ethical concerns that call for another formal review. The initial lie to the police that the shooter told was that my brother was shot at him as he was closing the bar. Once in the interview, he revealed that he was in the alley seeing my brother running at him, and he shot they said, Did my brother say anything to you? No. Did you see a gun on him? He said, No. He said, Well, why did you shoot him? He said, I don't know. The officer coerced him to say, man, come on, I know you had to feel something. Oh yeah, duh. I was scared. That was enough. The second is the disputed gunfire. The police continuously wrote in their reports that Mr. Birch and Mr. Jones exchanged gunfire, even though Mr. Birch did not have a gun. Second of all, they explained that to the medical examiner, who put in the autopsy report that my brother died is a cause of a gun fight. It wasn't true. My brother's body was removed from the scene before investigators got there, EMS did not report or anything that there was a weapon on the scene. The gun later that was found on the scene that it was assumed to be my brothers, had no prints on it, and it was not operable. It took the Michigan State Crime Lab six months to make it work, just to find out what was going on with it. The forensics, like I said, they misled the medical examiner. They the only witnesses they had was his wife and his friends. The video evidence by law, MCL, 780, dot, 651, it is the police's responsibility to seize or inspect any video equipment in which a felony is occurring for evidence. They refuse to do that. They didn't bag my brother's hands. They they didn't close off the crime scene. Other bullets was found on the other end of the book of the crime scene. They said my brother had an ever fresh bottle full of gas well that wasn't found either by the police investigators. All right,

Speaker 3

13:26

ma'am, you were way beyond time. But let me ask you this, have you been in contact with the investigators, or is it a cold case? Now, yes,

Speaker 9

13:38

most, most of the investigators and everyone is gone. Detective Olson was the lead detective in the case,

Speaker 3

13:45

and so you need an update on the cases that No, I want the

Speaker 9

13:49

case to be reopened. I want these inconsistencies and this ethics issue. I want those taken up with. And I also want Mr. Paul Jones to be he wasn't. It wasn't self defense. You can't go out looking for someone with the gun twice, okay? And then, like self defense, not

Speaker 3

14:09

initiated. It's not in our purview to direct a investigation, but you, you are in the right place for us to connect you with people, to have a conversation and be if you have something else to present to them, if you need to communicate with someone, the Assistant Chief Hayes,

Speaker 9

14:28

I really don't understand. Why is I have the foyer and the interview. The evidence isn't the police officers own records. If the man says the valet went and knocked on the door, told the bar owner that the guy is in the alley, and the bar owner go get his gun and go out to the alley. I don't understand why you don't look at your own evidence and understand that that was not self defense.

Speaker 3

14:56

Yes, ma'am. And so I, I, you know, is way beyond my purview and our purview. But we want to make sure that Assistant Chief Franklin Hayes have someone to hear everything that you have to say regardless, and have homicide, you know, look into things if they I don't know, you know, have if it have been looked into, have not been into our look into, I got you Mambo. So what we want to do is make sure he connects you with someone from Homicide to deal with everything that you're talking about. And you know, they the police, you know we and we want to hear back in terms of what the response is to that within a week. And so Madam Secretary, make sure we take note of this. And you can also leave your if you can get my contact information should be on one of those pamphlets. You can follow up with me personally on this. Well, I

Speaker 9

15:56

appreciate it. And the last thing I wanted to just add is that the man who shot my brother to the bar owner. His brother was an ex Detroit police officer. Okay,

Unknown Speaker

16:09

okay, sister, Chief, you got that Sure,

Speaker 10

16:11

absolutely, and ma'am certainly. On behalf of the Detroit Police Department, our heart go out to your tragic loss of your brother. There's an officer standing by the door that will get your information. And in addition, if I can ask you to hold for about another five minutes, I'm getting ready to have the captain of the homicide section come down get your information so that we can begin asking the questions, going over the facts for a follow up, to sit down and let you know where we are in this investigation, what has been done, as well as the findings from the Wayne County prosecutor's office. Thank you. Yes, ma'am,

Unknown Speaker

16:45

next speaker Patricia

Speaker 5

16:47

Montgomery, followed by former Police Commissioner William Davis,

Unknown Speaker

16:54

Mr. Montgomery, you may be hurt. You

Unknown Speaker

17:05

Hello, Miss Montgomery.

Unknown Speaker

17:11

Are you there?

Speaker 3

17:17

No, Miss montgomery, we can go with William Davis, possibly

Speaker 11

17:27

Good afternoon. Can I be heard? Yes, sir, I would like to say that just this past Tuesday, I was at the 12th precinct police community relationship council meeting, and they have an outstanding memorial service for appalling officers. You know, I think, far too often, but perhaps this board does, you know, like say, indulge the police more than they probably should. They should be talking about what they can do to improve it. But I think this is one week when you can and should be recognizing the fact that that's one of the few jobs that you could have that your family never knows if you're going to come back home, you know. So this is one week where I think you can and should be recognizing police officers. Also I think that we need to be doing more to make sure that we don't have to go through so many memorials. We should be doing more to recognize that that is a very difficult job to have to do it, and also the fact that even retired officers go through a lot,

Unknown Speaker

18:36

and that's all I have to say for today. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker

18:40

Thank you very kindly.

Speaker 5

18:45

That was last speaker in zoom. That's the last speaker on Zoom. We have a arrival who who wants to make a public comment. Okay,

Unknown Speaker

18:53

not a problem.

Unknown Speaker

19:01

If you could state your name for the record,

Unknown Speaker

19:05

London, Dana,

Unknown Speaker

19:06

okay, you may be hurt.

Speaker 12

19:10

I just want to know, what is it that the thing is about dumping? What's illegal dumping? If you put it in next to a house next to you is that illegal dumping?

Unknown Speaker

19:23

If it's a

Speaker 12

19:26

one of those houses that's owned by the city, is there illegal dumping? If you put trash in front of that house?

Unknown Speaker

19:35

Are you making a statement? Yes, that's what I'm asking.

Speaker 3

19:39

I'm not a lawyer. I can't say what is and what it's not.

Speaker 12

19:44

Well, if you put trash in front of another house is not occupied.

Speaker 3

19:49

I don't I can't speak to that

Speaker 10

19:55

through the chair dumping. It sounds to me that is illegal dumping. What you described taking items and putting them in the place deposit them any any place other than the rubbish, or putting them out during the scheduled trash bulk pickup day here in the city, based on what you've said thus far, that would constitute illegal dumping,

Speaker 12

20:21

because homeowner next door at 19 five to five, it keeps putting trash right there and but they didn't pick it up yesterday, which is tragedy, and I didn't call the ninth precinct ever since 930 this morning, Sergeant Harper, and I haven't got a call back, and I'm called three times and I still haven't got a call back. And the other thing is, why is it that no one is taking any care of the business of business of some of these officers that keep doing wrong, that they have a problem of being bullying all the citizens of Detroit. Why is that a big thing, that they can't handle that situation?

Unknown Speaker

21:10

Are you saying that you're being bullied by officers? No,

Speaker 12

21:13

the people of Detroit, of Wayne County, serious. And are you being bullied? Yeah, I would call that because they're not healing their business. I mean, because I feel that they don't think that we're human. They only think if something happened to them, hold on, quote, that we should care more about them than they care about us. We're still people, too. One incident when the officer fell through a floor. You got everybody on the force want to run over there because he just fell through the floor.

Unknown Speaker

21:51

We're people, too.

Speaker 12

21:53

They should care about us just as well as we supposed to care about them.

Unknown Speaker

21:58

I think we all should care about each other. Yes, you correct, but

Speaker 12

22:00

they don't show that. That's what I'm saying. They they treat themselves better than they should treat each other, everyone else. We're human, so they should have consideration for the people as well as they want the people to have consideration for them. That's all I'm saying. They treat themselves as their own game. But you want the people to have care for you, but they don't. Okay? They don't have care for the people.

Speaker 3

22:33

Alright? So you, you wait, will be over the time, no problem. Okay? And if it's if anything that is that was in our purview. If you have a complaint again against the officer, you can file that with the officer, chief investigator, if you have a complaint with the officer, but Assistant Chief Hayes, can you make sure that the ninth precinct give him the response to his phone calls?

Speaker 10

23:00

Absolutely. There is an officer standing behind you now that will get the information for you, and from you, go ahead, and then from there, we will address the issues that you brought forth as it relates to dumping. I have

Speaker 12

23:13

no problem with that, neither, sir, but I'm just saying I completely complaining for years about that situation.

Unknown Speaker

23:18

The word starts today, sir,

Unknown Speaker

23:21

no problem. Thank you. All

Speaker 3

23:23

right. Thank you so much. Yep, so we still waiting on a quorum to come in. Let me see what we can do on the agenda. Can we do the HR report?

Unknown Speaker

23:39

HR person, someone who works for the bo PC. Yes,

Speaker 3

23:41

is what works just one hour, appointees,

Speaker 13

23:46

staff member of the bo PC, then you can do that report.

Unknown Speaker

23:51

How you Yeah, I don't

Speaker 14

23:52

know that we've ever done that through the chair, through the chair. I'll just comment that. I don't know that we've ever done that before

Speaker 3

23:59

without the quorum, yeah, with it, you know, she served at the pleasure.

Unknown Speaker

24:06

I'm just providing commentary, that's all,

Speaker 15

24:07

yeah. Chair, how about we just have the Secretary's report? Yes, Madam Secretary,

Unknown Speaker

24:18

Commissioner Burton, still out there? You

Speaker 16

24:27

the report from today is as listed on the agenda, facial recognition report, Shot Spotter weekly report. There are memoranda from the various committees which are also will be listed and spoken to and presented during New Business announcements for the week are the next board meeting is next Thursday, May 22 3pm here at headquarters, the June community meeting will be held Thursday, June 12, 6:30pm it will be held at in the seventh preset at Sacred Heart activities building, which is located at 3451, Rivard Street in Detroit. The next committee meetings are as follows. The policy committee will meet Tuesday May 27 at 5pm here in public safety headquarters. And the towing committee will meet the following day, Wednesday, May 28 here at Detroit Public Safety headquarters, and those are the announcements and report for today's meeting. Okay,

Speaker 3

25:32

we can get the chief investigator to update the community and where we at. Thanks. Yeah.

Speaker 17

25:38

Thank you, Mr. Chair, to the honorable members of the board, to the community. Thank you all so very much for being here today. As you all know, the Office of the Chief Investigator has been undergoing a number of reorganizations and the changes in our office. As you all know, we are fully staffed. We have close to 22 investigators in our rotation, and they are forming excellently because of our new case management system. They are still in the process of being able to mine the numbers, but our preliminary reports say that for the month of April, we've actually closed over 222 cases. And if you do the year aggregate, we've closed 836 cases. That's important, because all of last year we've closed 900 and I believe it was 47 cases. So just in the first four months of this year we've closed almost as much as we did last year because of the fact that of our new technology as well as being fully staffed. And so if you want me to defer the rest of my comments, I can no you keep it up. In addition to that, we have come up with an addendum to our standard operating procedures that we reported out to the citizen complaint committee this week that will allow us to expedite our cases even further, especially those cases that have been significantly aged in our system. And obviously commission members, you have that report in your binders, and I believe that by the end of this year, we will be completely done with the backlog based on the addendum to the SOP that addresses very specifically backlog cases. And the great thing about this addendum is that as the Office of the Chief Investigator continues to go forward, no matter who's sitting in this seat, this will be part of their regular operations if a backlog should creep up again. So that is my report at this time, sir. Thank

Speaker 3

27:49

you so much. Any questions to the chief investigator? There being no questions,

Unknown Speaker

27:58

Madam Secretary, please call the roll.

Unknown Speaker

28:06

Commissioner woods, present,

Speaker 16

28:10

Commissioner Moore, present Commissioner Hernandez, present, Commissioner DeWalt,

Unknown Speaker

28:17

Commissioner Smith, present.

Speaker 16

28:22

I Commissioner Burton, present.

Unknown Speaker

28:28

Six present, sir, the chair, yes, could

Speaker 14

28:31

we just acknowledge if any of the absent commissioners requested an excuse?

Unknown Speaker

28:38

Yes, I

Speaker 16

28:39

do have a couple that asked to be excused. However, they also said they may be coming in prior to is one of the reasons I didn't mention excuse

Unknown Speaker

28:50

city. Excuse for right now,

Speaker 3

28:54

would you Yes, they put it on the record place, I'm sorry. Put it on the record as if they asked to be excused, put the excuse on the record.

Speaker 16

29:03

Commissioner banks excuse. Commissioner, Bill excused.

Unknown Speaker

29:08

Okay,

Unknown Speaker

29:10

all right. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 3

29:14

I'd like to entertain a motion for the approval of the April or the May 15, 2025, agenda. So move support, moved by Commissioner Hernandez, supported by Commissioner. More any discussion. All in favor? Say, aye. Anyone opposed the

Speaker 18

29:30

motion? Mr. Chairman for the administrator position. I noticed there's one administration administrator position where one person is looking to be moving through the process. But I like to. I like it if we can have, you know, from a democracy standpoint, if we can have a run off, or we can have a second or third name for that position, as well as the second administrative position, I think there's three applicants or whatever that's moving forward to the full board, I like to see, say, see the same thing with the other administrator position, where there's more than just one name coming before the

Unknown Speaker

30:10

fourth board Commissioner. Thank

Speaker 14

30:13

you. Provide a brief response. Based on my role as chairperson of the personnel and training committee, there was a consensus amongst the committee for the administrator position to move forward with the identified candidate along with a secondary candidate, pending any open positions that may be made available in the future. As a reminder, and this is more of a budget committee item, which I also sit on. We were preliminarily approved for additional postings beginning in July. And I put that out there prospectively, because those postings are not yet up. Therefore we, in partnership with HR, they advised us that we could actually identify, not select an additional candidate prospectively for that upcoming posting. So instead of having to come back and re interview the same pool of people for the same qualifications, that's why we're doing it that way. For the administrator three position, the interviews were tight enough that the committee felt the entire board should be a part of that interview process as well, which is why we have those three candidates present today? Chair, yes, sir,

Speaker 18

31:23

I don't, I don't agree that. You know, that the that the committee didn't have, you know, didn't look at this or whatever, but, but what I am, what I do understand, is that we are not following the process that we had.

Unknown Speaker

31:44

And you know, previous

Speaker 18

31:50

job postings or, you know, and so the process, you know, I like to know what was changing from this process versus the previous processes. But, you know, just, I don't want to say that the committee didn't have the best attentions in hand. I'm not going to say that, but I don't agree with this process. I think that would be fair, Mr. Chairman, because yes,

Speaker 13

32:16

process that the report of the Personnel Committee is on the agenda? Yes, so we do, therefore this is not an amendment to the agenda, because that report is already on the agenda. The commissioner can certainly bring up this issue when that committee report is presented, absolutely, and make a motion to refer this matter back to the committee. Okay, if that is what the commissioner if the commissioners not satisfied with the process, but at this time, what is before the board is approval of the agenda, yes, and there. And what the commissioners discussing is no change on addition to the agenda,

Speaker 18

32:57

sure. And I just like to just add this real quick briefly, I'm not saying that the committee didn't have the best attentions or anything, you know, for this board or for the committee. It's just it's more so about the process that the

Speaker 13

33:10

parliamentarian believes she understands the commissioners issue. But what is before the board is approval of the agenda, and what the commissioner is discussing is a committee report that is going to come up. And at that point, full presentation of the commissioners concerns would be appropriate. But at this time, since what the commissioners discussing is not an amendment to the agenda, it is not part of what is before the board. At this time, absolutely

Speaker 3

33:39

All in favor. Say, aye, aye, aye. Anyone opposed the motion is carried. I entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes for May 8, 2025 so moved support, moved by Commissioner Hernandez is supported by Commissioner. More in discussion, all in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed the motion is carried. You have a resolution honoring the retired deputy chief Mary. Introduction, oh, I skipped, I'm sorry, oh. Introduction of SM small print,

Unknown Speaker

34:10

say that one more time now,

Speaker 3

34:17

PC staff and chief of police in all of the above Say it one more time

Speaker 16

34:25

through the chair. Bo PC. Staff present today are as follows, Attorney Dante Goss Jerome Warfield, chief investigator, Drew freeze. Felicia Tyson, Mary Barber, Teresa blossom, Candace, Hayes, armisia, Joshua, johnya Underwood, supervising investigator, Elton Murphy and Dr Francis Jackson, parliamentarian, DPD, HR director, Katrina Patillo for police chief Todd medicine's office is Assistant Chief Franklin Hayes. Our interpreters today are michikata and Dr Stephanie Beatty, court reporter, Don handy side. Enrique Jackson for audio visual, Charles Henry media services, video. Elected officials or representatives registered at this time are as follows, Marie overall for state representative, Tyrone Carter's office, Ladon Davis office of council member Fred durhall, Ron Thomas, President DPOA, Detroit police officers of America and former Detroit Police Commissioner William Davis. Those are all that are registered at this time.

Speaker 3

35:35

Okay,

thank you very kindly. Um, alright, we have the resolution honor and retired deputy chief, Mary Jarrett Jackson, who, who offered this resolution, resolution, Madam Secretary, who,

Unknown Speaker

35:52

I can read it. Mr. Chairman,

Speaker 3

35:55

okay, because I'm not familiar who, who requested this.

Speaker 16

36:02

The department, the DPD, as well as Commissioner Bell.

Unknown Speaker

36:09

Oh, okay. And I

Speaker 16

36:11

do know the family also was, I

Speaker 3

36:14

have no problem with innocent, but I wasn't familiar, aware of it. Okay, go ahead. Commissioner more

Speaker 15

36:21

Memorial resolution honor retired deputy chief Mary Jared Jackson. Whereas Mary Jared Jackson was a born scientist with the destiny that racial prejudice and sexual discrimination in America and law enforcement could not derail. Following in the footsteps of her father, a River Rouge Police Officer, Mary wanted to pursue her dream of working at the Detroit Police Department, Crime Lab, against constant obstacles, she became one of the first black female Detroit police officers in 1958 she later became the first female president of the black police organization, the guardians of Michigan, in 1977 the first black female deputy chief in the world in 1986 and a forensics legend from Detroit to Scotland Yard during her 35 year career. And whereas A true, true Trailblazer, she used her innate skills and impeccable credentials to make groundbreaking achievements. Despite graduating from the prestigious Howard University with majors in chemistry and physics, and her experience at hospital labs in Washington, DC and Detroit, Officer Jared Jackson found herself passed over for lab assignments by men with no education or training. The white male dominated department leaders under pressure about blatant discrimination, gradually gave her a special test. She naturally aced it and went to the scientific bureau in 1964 making her the first woman and first black in the crime lab. Six years later, she was in charge of the lab, as she was in charge as the lab director, and whereas time revealed how fate need her in the crime lab, when, in March 1973 it failed to Sergeant Jared Jackson to process evidence in a fatal officer involved shooting her forensic tests exposed undeniable facts. A white officer had killed an unarmed black man and then planted a knife to cover up the murder. Faced with her iron clad evidence, the officer admitted to planning the weapon and pull back the curtain on the brutal DPD campaign against black residents, cause stress, stop the robberies and enjoy safe streets. A majority white jury refused to convict the corrupt officer. However, Sergeant Jared Jackson's work had exposed heinous practices inside DPD, which made her and her family targets of death threats, she stood firm, rallied other officers committed to professionalism and justice and working for police reforms with the community, including state senator Coleman, a young and whereas Mary, as you Were, whereas when with Mayor young in 1974 the new board of police commissioners began working with Sergeant Jared Jackson as she continued to rise through the ranks to Deputy Chief. She engaged with the board of civilian oversight goals for years after her 1994 retirement in 2019 the board honored her fearless commitment to facts, justice and police accountability with a special award on april 25 2025 at age 94 retired deputy chief Mary Jarrett Jackson passed away, therefore ever remains a notable figure in history and science. Therefore be it resolved, the board of police commissioner awards this resolution posthumously in honor of the remarkable Mary Jared Jackson, whose pursuit of her dream job was fated to forever change the police department in the city of Detroit, motion to approve Mr. Chairman support

Speaker 3

39:53

motion made by Commissioner more supported by Commissioner Hernandez. Any discussion, I'll just say, What a remarkable lady, right? Absolutely All in favor. Say, aye, aye. Anyone opposed the motion is carried. All right, we did the oral communications and chief of police report. Oh. Sorry.

Speaker 10

40:21

Good afternoon to this honorable body, those in attendance, as well as those joining remotely. My name is Franklin Hayes, Assistant police chief, and I will be providing chief medicine, chief of police report. I want to start off with our crime numbers. We continue to trend historically low. And our part one, violent crimes, Homicide. Year to date, we are down 965, last year. This year, we are at 56 for 14% reduction, non fatal shootings. We have six

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40:59

less shootings, 183

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41:03

2024, 119

Speaker 10

41:06

2025, with those two numbers alone, there are 73 different families now that less families that have been impacted by gun violence here in the city of Detroit, our robberies, we're down 15% we had 356 happen this time last year. Year to date, we are at 304 for 52 less, carjackings, 33 last year, 22 this year. That's 11 less for 33% reduction overall, we are down 10% and Part One violent crimes. We had 3815

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41:44

incidents last year. This year, we are at 3453

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41:50

for a total of 362

Speaker 10

41:53

less violent crime incidents happening in the City Year to date. Let

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41:58

the record reflect that Commissioner Presley is present.

Speaker 10

42:02

Want to transition to a couple significant events that have happened since this body last convened. We want to start with Saturday May 10, where officers were called to the 1000 block of Woodward for reported stabbing. Officers located the victim who received treatment and was taken to the local area hospital through the hard work of the officers, about 40 minutes later, the suspect was located and she was taken into custody. The suspect was charged with felonious assault. This was an isolated incident between two juveniles, and we certainly want to remind this community and certainly all parents, to be responsible for their children. And we also want to remind them that we have many officers deployed in the downtown area and anywhere that we know large groups will be. We want to encourage our youth to enjoy everything our city has to Officer office. Well, sorry, excuse me. Offer in our downtown areas and again, certainly that parental responsibility, but we want to encourage not to make bad decisions committing a crime, because you certainly will be apprehended and held accountable. Want to talk about an incident that also happened this past weekend at a gas station on Detroit east side at six mile and Conant, where a clerk made a very a decision to pull a firearm and point it At a customer and shoot discharging the firearm, there was bulletproof glass barrier between the both of them. However, charge of the glass struck the victim in this incident, we swiftly placed that clerk into custody, and within 48 hours, actually, 24 hours. Chief medicine ensured that his commitment to this community, holding those that offer services to our residents, they will treat them humanely, with dignity and with respect to our rents here in the city of Detroit and anyone in our city, for that matter, not just residents, those that may come and visit or recreate as well. And for that, we swiftly close the location, and now they have the process of explaining why they should continue to enjoy the privilege of serving the residents as well as, again, those that work and also visit our city as well, because, based on those actions, they that is not anyone that we want. Again, having a business here in our city, the business was also a green light, and it is important that in partnership with green light, we've worked very hard to build that program, and we will not lose credibility by continuing relationships with bad partners that make those decisions. So they have also been suspended from the green light program as well. So again, we will work to keep this body informed of incidents like that in the future, hopefully they are few and far in between, hopefully non existent, but in the event that that happens, will certainly take the charge to keep this body informed of those incidents so that certainly we can address those and hold those accountable and

Speaker 3

45:39

Let the record fact that commission Carter is present.

Speaker 10

45:44

Just a few last things as summers rapidly approaching, we are on a campaign to encourage and quite frankly, insist responsible driving throughout our city. With that campaign, we are focused on speeding as well as license plates and vehicles being properly registered when driving through our city streets. That is an active campaign, and all of our precincts are focusing on this. And from that, we've made several arrests, recovered several firearms and ordinance have been issued, as well as vehicles that have been impounded that do not have a license plate on them at all. You'd be surprised. Some may fold up a piece of paper and just write a date on it to do that as well and drive amongst our seats, we are having a zero tolerance as we address these issues as our youth, as I talked about downtown, while there's an encouragement for youth make decisions and enjoy downtown responsibly, there's also an onus to adults and those that are operating these vehicles, they too, need to make responsible decisions as well and operate these vehicles lawfully registered and within the speed limits, as former Commissioner Davis certainly appreciate his empathy and recognition, although This body as well. Does that? This is National Police Week. So across the nation, police departments are recognized during this week remembering those who have given the ultimate sacrifice at our precincts across the city, officers and members of the community are currently holding events to remember our falling officers. We encourage those to stop by any of our precincts and enjoy their food and certainly refreshments. Some of the families of the fallen officers are there as well. Please come meet them as it relates to you know their tragic loss was done so for the safety of this city. So again, we encourage everyone to come out tomorrow's the last day, but please, if your schedule allows, it, would mean a lot, absolutely. And then lastly, recruiting. We are continuing to bolster our numbers. We are almost at 100% in our sworn positions and above 90 in our non sworn our professional positions. On May 15, the police recruiting team is at Asher school career fair in Southgate next Wednesday, May 21 they will be at the city employee resource fair at kmac, the matrix career fair on 13, 560, and East McNichols and the Detroit Leadership Academy at 5484, Auburn Street, Mister Chair, that concludes my report, and I will glad answer any questions this body may have of me, Sir commissioner and this,

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48:33

thank you. Thank

Speaker 14

48:34

you through the Chair, I think I have more of a delayed comment given my absence, my excuse, the absence last week. Fourth Precinct two weeks ago, had obviously the hefty responsibility of Cinco de Mayo activations in southwest Detroit. I prayed enough for rain, and somehow it rained all day. So I think that was a good factor, regardless, though I was there for several hours with a number of different officers, including commander holder bomb as well. Sure, they did a phenomenal job that entire weekend and on actual single cinco the May, on Monday, I was out as well with Ford precinct. So I just want to recognize, even if it's delayed, there were disturbances, which I think naturally are always going to have when you have that volume of activations and residents and entertainment and so forth. But there was a partnership I think, that began or was reinforced last year with local businesses and community organizations to make sure that this year was much different. And I think the results reflect that partnership that's ongoing. I don't want to forget anyone, but I'm just going to say a couple names of officers that definitely stepped up in a lot of big ways. Obviously, Commander holder bomb, Captain star Gonzalez, who is newly has newly moved into Fourth Precinct and was recently promoted. And po Rodriguez, Officer Luna, Officer Sears, will now Sergeant Sears, Officer Lopez and officers Rios, all of them again, including the rest of Fourth Precinct, did a phenomenal job. They definitely stood out that day. And then one final comment, I actually in my entire tenure of being on this board, and I'm kind of sad to say it attended my very first graduation on Monday, and actually was given the task a couple minutes before of speaking at this graduation, I was very impressed that there were obviously so many families. I just would encourage any commissioner or any resident who has never been a part of a promotional ceremony to actually go out, take the time and see how supportive, obviously, the community and families are of those that get promoted. And obviously we have our very own Assistant Chief, Hayes, who was a part of that promotional ceremony as well. So just congratulations again to everyone. The expectations are high, the accountability is even higher, but I was just really happy to be able to attend on your behalf.

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51:04

Thank you so much, and thank you for the great job you did.

Unknown Speaker

51:10

Yes, yes, thank

Speaker 19

51:12

you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Actually, I was going to start my comments exactly the way Commissioner Hernandez did. I was also excused last week and did not get an opportunity to comment on the great job. And I'm not going to repeat or say any names, because Commissioner Hernandez already did, but I do want to say that I gave DC, well AC a call the night before this the parade, because I was getting calls from several leaders. I got like, four calls from leaders who had said there was a rumor going around in the community that ice and DPD were working together, and they were going to be rounding up people to take them in, you know, to get get them deported. And so people were just my phone was ringing. My cell phone was ringing constantly, AC right away, and I told him, I said, there's this rumor. And once it starts, it's like wild fire in our community, everybody will hear this rumor. And so he assured me he was very, very deliberate in his comment. And he said, Absolutely not. We are not working with the Border Patrol to round people up. Absolutely not. The chief is going to be in the parade, and so is the mayor. So please call your people back and tell them they have nothing to worry about. And so, you know, there, as far as I know, there were, I was at the parade as well all day, and there was nothing that happened during the parade, other than it rained. A lot of people, it was cold rain. People were coming into El Centro, where, you know, I have the newspaper and even the chief came and AC came to stop by and visit. So I just want to thank everyone who worked so hard in the department to make sure that this was a very, very nice event for our community, because our people still came out, even even if with that threat, with, you know, the thought that that might happen, and with the rain, we still had about 8000 people that came out to the parade. So thank you so much for allowing us to have that celebration of our culture. Thank you.

Speaker 15

53:37

Thank you. Mr. Chair, initially I was going to ask any questions, but two popped up, so forgive me. First one deals with carjacking. If a citizen walks into a precinct and they don't have any proof of insurance, can a carjacking report still take place

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53:53

through the Chair? Yes, it can. Okay. Second

Speaker 15

53:56

question is noise complaints. I know that there's a task force, a group of folks, DPD that are in position to handle large scale noise complaints. What is it citizen to do if it's the neighbor that's playing their radio loud in the car or something like that, can they sign a green ticket like they used to do back in the day? What would you advise a citizen to do if their neighbor consistently plays loud music through

Speaker 10

54:20

the chair, there are a couple different avenues that the resident can take. They can certainly call 911 they should have a relationship with their precinct commander as well as their MPO. They can feel free to use that as well and do that. We have a group of members dedicated to those quality of life issues. Several are in attendance today our MPO so again, noise ordinance, whether it be from a venue, whether it be from a car, there are things in place and there are tools that the city charter slash code has given us to hold them accountable and not be disruptive to the peace and tranquility of our neighborhoods.

Speaker 15

55:00

But a citizen through the chair citizen can't sign the green ticket if the officer is not present to hear the noise.

Unknown Speaker

55:09

No sir. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

55:10

All right. Thank you. Thank you. AC, we're going to go to the human resource Bureau report.

Speaker 3

55:31

Hello, how you doing? Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. Chair through the board. Up. You don't have to take 10 minutes.

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55:37

I will the HR Report for the month of April.

Speaker 20

55:42

You all should have been provided the packet so for the report for the department, and this is for the month of April, for the department was filled at 97% for sworn we were filled at 99% 2641 positions were filled. We had 33 vacancies. 1% vacancy rate for civilian professional staff were filled at 764 positions, 3% and 59 vacancies, 70% 7% vacancies for the sworn recruiting for fiscal year until April 30, we have received a total of 1990 applications. 559

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one processing. Three withdrew. 592

Speaker 20

56:28

were archived. 142 members have been hired during the fiscal year. 249 I was temporarily disqualified. 179 were permanently disqualified, and 266 was waiting on M Coles, testing for the testing for April, for the written exam. We had 72 that was scheduled. 40 appeared. 25 that passed, 62% passing rate, 15 failed. That was 38% failure. Rate, one, reschedule. 31 no shows for the physical agility. 69 schedule. 34 peer, 21 pass, 62% passing rate. 13 felt. 38% failure rate, three rescheduled and 32 no shows. We do not have any graduates for the month of April. For new hires, we had a total of 48 that was 19 sworn, 29 professional staff for the Detroit residency. Before Detroit, we have a total sworn 603 police assist in 15 those are Detroit residents and 438 professional staff for the non Detroiters. 2038 total sworn 12 police assistance at 327 civilians, of those new hires that we had for the civilian, professional staff, 18 of Detroit residents, three, four sworn for Detroit residents to put the academy. For the attrition, we had a total of 2510 police officers, 13 professional staff and two police assistance for our leave of absence, for sworn and civilian for FMLA, continuous, we had 13 sworn three civilians for FMLA. Intermediate, 129 sworn 74 civilians pay parental leave. We had nine sworn one civilian medical leave for civilian restricted, 154 sworn 11 civilian disabled. 14, sworn for civilians sick. 19, sworn five civilians for suspensions. We had a total of 1413, police officers, one sergeant for monthly separations. We had a total of 10. Breakout was eight police officers to lieutenants, and then for our deferred retirement program. We have total 490 from January, 2023 to the present, we have a net gain of 348 police officers. We have hired during this time. 713 365 is separated. For this calendar year, we have a net gain of 10 we've hired 8575 is separated. This past Friday, we graduated a class of 39 student police officers. We currently have five academy classes going right now, 118 students. We expect to conduct another hiring on May 29 and for the ELPAC s pack and D pack graduation, we had over 800 in attendance, of guests. Those promotions and appointees were one AC, Assistant Chief, one assistant chief, one commander, one Deputy Chief, 11 lieutenants, 28 sergeants and 18 detectives. Pending any questions. That concludes my

Speaker 5

59:29

presentation. Commissioner the wash, yes, thank you.

Speaker 19

59:33

I just a quick question, since we're close to the 100% mark, and I know that could change every month. What happens if we reach 100% do you continue recruiting and collecting or starting a wait list of some kind, or do you stop recruit? You know what? What is the process? So

Speaker 20

59:57

I would say, and this is me speaking, I would say that we would say that we would continue to need to come recruit. And the reason why is because we are treat every month, and so if I just stand idle and do nothing that the numbers can creep up on you, on the vacancies. So I think once we get to 100 and I do believe it's possible that I would need to have a conversation with the chief, the board of police commissioner, the mayor, to determine how to go forward at that point. But

Speaker 19

01:00:29

yes, and just, just couple of more comments, Mister Chair, this is none on the commission. This is my third term, and I have never seen the numbers this high ever so, you know, the department is to be commended. And also the number of separations is also very low. I recall when we would have as many graduates, as many separations as we had graduates, you know for that month. So you know, again, whatever you're doing is working. And thank you. Thank you for that. I would say

Speaker 20

01:01:08

it's a team effort. So from the unions to the city council passing the economic package that they passed, to the governor passing the bill, where there's a repayment if you graduate from our academy class, and if it's less than four years, you have to pay back a portion of that many that fall into the category, I think it's collective effort from everyone taking part in doing what's need and what's necessary.

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01:01:33

Thank you.

Speaker 3

01:01:37

Any further questions? No other questions. Thank you very kindly. Thank you for the great job you're doing. Thanks. So we had new business. I'll finish business. Okay, there's none. So we had new business. So the citizen complaint committee report,

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01:02:03

yes, sir Commissioner,

Speaker 21

01:02:04

thank you to the chair. I encourage my colleagues to take the moment to review the memorandum that comes from the citizen complaint committee meeting that was held this past Tuesday, May the 13th, 2025 but there is one action item that comes out of the committee relative to the standard operating procedure addendum that was provided and presented to us by the chief investigator, and the committee moved that forward for the board, and so, by direction of the citizen complaint committee, We move to adopt the addendum to the standard operating procedures for the Office of the Chief Investigator, expedited backlog guidelines.

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01:02:50

If there's no objections,

Speaker 3

01:02:57

there was a motion made to accept there's a recommendation on by recommendation by the citizen complaint committee to move their item forward. Is there any discussion? All in favor? Say aye and oppose. The motion is carried. Thank you. Thank you. Do it,

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01:03:23

right? Yes, Mr. Chairman, yes.

Speaker 3

01:03:31

So the Budget Committee goes to Commissioner the wash, yes.

Speaker 19

01:03:36

Thank you, Mr. Chair, there was a budget committee a meeting held on May 13, and President were myself and Commissioner Bernard, and we had staff of these and from that budget committee, there is an action item, and that action item is that I want to propose, By the direction of the Budget Committee, I move to extend the length of time in which the OCI investigator task workers will serve the board from the end of this fiscal year, June 30, 2025 to November 21 2025, which is the expiration date of the memo, memorandum of understanding between the city of Detroit and the Michigan Association of Public Employees, local number 214

Speaker 3

01:04:30

by direction of the Budget Committee,

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01:04:36

by recommendation of the Budget Committee,

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01:04:41

they move to

Speaker 3

01:04:43

recommend to extend the task workers to in in November 2025, which is outlined in the memorandum of understanding. Any discussion, all in favor, say, Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried, and the policy committee,

Speaker 19

01:05:11

I'll handle the policy committee as well. Yes, on behalf of Commissioner Bernard, who's the chair, we met on May 13 as well. And there we covered, we had a lot of discussion about various proposed policy directives. And I have, by the direction of the policy committee, I moved to adopt the following policy directives. Director, one of 2.6 citizens complaints. Directive two oh 1.3 domestic violence. Directive two oh 2.1 arrests. Directive two oh 4.7 special events and escorts. Directive two oh 5.4 First Amendment. Directive three, oh 1.1 radio procedures, directive three. Oh, 3.5, uniforms and appearance through the chair.

Speaker 13

01:06:11

You want to wait to make a motion, and Mr. Chairman, you need to first state that motion, and then you can open it up. Yeah. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker

01:06:18

By direction of the

Speaker 3

01:06:21

policy committee, they moved to adopt a policy directive, one point 2.1, point 2.62, or 1.320

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01:06:34

2.120 4.72,

Speaker 3

01:06:37

or 5.4 and 301 point 130, 3.5

Speaker 13

01:06:42

and any discussion, the parliamentarian would remind the commissioners that without a motion, any one of these can be pulled and voted on separately. Okay,

Speaker 18

01:06:54

yes, for discussion. I think it's very important that the policy chairperson, you know, be here to put forth what policies that she would like to see move out of committee today and brought to the table. But also, it would be nice if I'm not sure if everyone saw all of the policies that's coming out of committee

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01:07:19

have recommendations

Speaker 18

01:07:22

the of their concerns, but it'd be nice if it came from the policy.

Speaker 3

01:07:52

And from my understanding, these policies were sent to to the board for any type of input. If so, if you have any input on any type of policy, of these policies, that's one thing. But we're not going to ceremony. Hold up the business of the board of police commissioners. Way to Commissioner Bernard get here

Speaker 15

01:08:13

the further discussion. Well, just gonna say through the chair that the chair woman did submit a letter Yes, a letter in our package, right, echoing with Commissioner the wall just stated

Unknown Speaker

01:08:26

that's all, yes, absolutely,

Speaker 19

01:08:28

Mr. Chair, if I may, I maybe the secretary can confirm these are online and are at our website.

Speaker 16

01:08:37

Yes, they are online, and they did go with the agenda on Tuesday and again today. Yes,

Speaker 3

01:08:45

thank you. Yeah, and they, from my understanding was they sent to all the commissioners at the

Speaker 16

01:08:55

committee posting the documents were all sent, as well as once they were revised when, as I said, when the packet went out. Electronic packet went out on the posting on Tuesday and yet again today, together with the memorandum for the from the committee, with the actual documents were forwarded. Again,

Speaker 3

01:09:21

yes, so again, all in favor say, Aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. We have a closed door session pursuant to section eight A of the Open Meetings, act MCL 15.268, a departments request for the board to consider administrative leave without pay but with medical benefits for probationary officer, police officer Lisa Kilgore, badge 2491 assigned To the fifth precinct. So move, moved by Commissioner Hernandez to go into closed session and supported by Commissioner more, any discussion. All in favor. Say, aye, this is a three minute recess,

Speaker 22

01:10:10

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01:10:27

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01:10:29

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01:10:34

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Speaker 23

01:10:35

college and yeah, that's how, yeah,

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01:10:46

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Speaker 15

01:10:51

I've seen that happen. I just looked for saw that she was on committee. I'm like, Mom, I going to

Speaker 23

01:11:01

read it down the board, anything. It's

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01:11:09

hard for me. What about the other guy?

Speaker 2

01:11:10

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Speaker 2

01:11:21

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01:11:28

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01:11:32

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Speaker 2

01:11:38

so I'll get back to it. Ma'am, 2115 thanks. They gotta give you the other one. Too amazing.

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01:11:50

Give that one to the Secretary. Thank

Speaker 24

01:11:53

you. Okay,

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01:12:02

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01:12:06

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Speaker 25

01:12:10

great. That was my first cruise, and it was wonderful. That was your first cruise

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01:12:17

at a balcony upgrade to the

Speaker 2

01:12:20

it was, I'm going to level for sure, absolutely, but I need to sit down with you.

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01:12:27

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01:12:34

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01:12:40

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Speaker 25

01:12:42

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Speaker 23

01:12:49

but they're cheap for Rita, good afternoon. It will do close to phenomenal, phenomenal, right? How much is hard?

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01:13:07

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01:13:11

to be cruising with a bunch of kids?

Speaker 25

01:13:12

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01:13:24

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01:13:29

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01:13:31

really good, yes, but he's a

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01:13:33

short term, yeah, but she just said, Follow me. I'm

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01:13:38

gonna read this with you for Commissioner. Bell, is that okay? Oh,

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01:13:41

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01:13:45

that's December for me. Thanks,

Speaker 25

01:13:48

Assistant Presley, thanks. Is going in December the new president, no

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01:13:59

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01:14:06

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Speaker 25

01:14:12

right, oh, yeah. Anyway, that's all I'm about. That just simply came back. We'll where were the cheering they did. They brought it right back. Ceremony. They didn't get us one the other day.

Unknown Speaker

01:14:30

You know, as the vice chair, because nobody else

Speaker 25

01:14:37

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01:14:48

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01:14:54

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01:15:16

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01:15:32

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Speaker 23

01:15:38

right. I was going to say Right, right, right, right, right, right. You can't beat that. Yeah?

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01:15:44

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01:15:46

yeah, I'm trying really, yeah, but that's sad, right?

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01:15:53

If you take the title

Speaker 15

01:15:57

time. You know, even a few a couple minutes later, somebody said, I'll be here to

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01:16:04

start last

Speaker 15

01:16:06

night, Thursday. We trust. You know that you have the battle experience you've

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01:16:11

been here. You can do it

Speaker 22

01:16:12

absent a couple times. He could do it as diverse. Device.

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01:16:17

So I'm ready for it. I'm here. You

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01:16:19

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01:16:25

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Speaker 3

01:16:34

it is Thursday, May 15, 416, this closed section is called to order, yep,

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01:16:45

please call the roll.

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01:16:53

Commissioner Woods present.

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01:16:57

Commissioner Smith,

Speaker 16

01:17:04

Commissioner Bernard, Commissioner banks is excused. Commissioner Bell is excused. Commissioner Burton, Commissioner Carter,

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01:17:14

Commissioner Moore, Commissioner

Speaker 16

01:17:17

Dewas present. Commissioner Hernandez, Commissioner

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01:17:21

Presley, here.

Speaker 3

01:17:25

We have six present. We have a corn Mall. Yes, sir. Oh, everyone.

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01:17:32

Introduce yourself. Dr Francis Jackson, board and

Speaker 16

01:17:34

parliamentarian, Lydia Garnier, secretary to the board.

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01:17:40

Franklin Hayes, Assistant police chief,

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01:17:42

Captain William Sims, internal controls.

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01:17:46

Jennifer tiller, Director police personnel human resource bureau.

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01:17:51

Dante Goss, interim board attorney,

Speaker 26

01:17:57

Zara SOP, DP way attorney, along with Vice President of dp way, Ron Thomas, as well as Alicia coghor,

Unknown Speaker

01:18:12

good afternoon. Good

Speaker 17

01:18:14

afternoon. This closed session is convened to present the department's recommendation to change the duty status of police officer Alicia Kilgore, badge 2491, assigned to the fifth precinct, to administrative leave without pay, but with medical benefits. March 4, 2025 the complainant and father of Officer Kilgore is young child, filed a report with the Roseville Police Department alleging that officer Kilgore committed larceny and pointed her department firearm at him when he confronted confronted her for sealing the complainant indicated in this report that he and Officer Kilgore had a verbal argument on March 1 2025 they ended with him advising her to leave his home. It's reported upon leaving, Officer Kilgore took a diamond ring his cell phone and work keys. The report also stated that officer Kilgore returned to his home. I'm sorry, returned to his home on march 3, 2025 entered his unlocked vehicle that was parked in his backyard, removed his garage door opener and his gym bag, which contained a necklace and a charm. The complainant returned later the same day, utilizing the garage opener and exited with a bag reportedly containing the complainant's iPad and Garmin GPS. On March 11, the Macomb County prosecutor's office charged officer Kilgore with three felonies. March 13, Officer Kilgore was arraigned on all three charges. On It should be noted, on May 7, the case was dismissed. The complainant failed to appear, based on the information

Speaker 22

01:19:38

described just one second, we just found out that The live session is on zoom right now So You

Speaker 27

01:27:05

It is

Speaker 3

01:27:25

all right, ready to roll. All right. Thank you. Today is May 15, 427, the board of police commission is called back to order,

Unknown Speaker

01:27:38

please call the roll.

Speaker 1

01:27:47

Commissioner woods, present, Commissioner Smith, present.

Speaker 16

01:27:54

Commissioner banks is excused. Commissioner Bill present, Commissioner Burton present, Commissioner Carter, Commissioner more present, Commissioner Hernandez present, Commissioner Presley here, Commissioner de Walsh, present.

Unknown Speaker

01:28:14

We have a call. Nine

Speaker 3

01:28:16

presents, yep, um,

Unknown Speaker

01:28:19

what is the pleasure?

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01:28:22

Yes,

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01:28:24

have we moved on to personal training?

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01:28:27

Um, okay, if there's no

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01:28:29

action, all right, all right, so yeah, we will go there.

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01:28:43

Let's go to the personnel

Speaker 14

01:28:44

training committee. Thank you. I'll call a two minute recess if we can, just to allow for staff to set up an interview table and a bunch of other things need to do and get our

Speaker 3

01:28:55

packets to us. Okay, yeah, this is a two minute

Speaker 15

01:28:58

recess. Mr. Chair for the like. We should just It should be noted clearly that the Board did not take

Speaker 3

01:29:03

action on that. Okay, all right, go ahead, put it on the record,

Speaker 15

01:29:08

just for the community awareness, the Board did not take action on the item number D, the closed session that we came out of. Thank you. Thank you.

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01:29:38

Who was the first candidate?

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01:29:42

Madam Secretary, come he needs it.

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01:29:47

Okay, I'm caught between two, right? Okay?

Speaker 1

01:29:58

So he's the first candidate. No, those was who was the first candidate? Because there's a motion. Mr. Jackson,

Speaker 3

01:30:06

yes, okay, alright, so what is the interview questions?

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01:30:12

That's what he's asking

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right now, just one second.

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01:30:24

Yeah,

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oh, okay, I

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see him. Yeah, that there.

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01:30:40

They like eggs. Excuse me. Boy,

Speaker 5

01:30:43

yeah, see, excuse me. Board. Media Services wants to make an adjustment so the candidates can be seen, but he needs your input, Mr.

Speaker 3

01:30:52

Chair, um, have Have at it, sir. You the boss of this.

Speaker 23

01:31:09

Oh yes, I was at that game two days,

Speaker 2

01:31:14

huh? Oh, real Yeah, it was real good. That fifth inning, right? Yeah, that

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01:31:20

was so much my son in law thought my husband and I were arguing.

Speaker 13

01:31:25

We're cheering because the second wall off when? Okay, awesome.

Speaker 22

01:31:30

Wow, it is. That's perfect, alright? And so we'll just use these, right? Okay,

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01:31:41

since we didn't know if they want, we don't. We're not doing squawk Wonderful.

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01:31:51

Okay?

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01:31:54

You want to announce that?

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01:31:57

Or I can that's fine.

Speaker 1

01:32:00

In the packets behind each tab, candidate, the three that are on the agenda for the interviewers, there are questions.

Speaker 16

01:32:11

Commissioner Hernandez will give the directions around asking the questions. The other two tabs will come with the motion for the administrative assistant position later. But we were asked to put all of the information in for commissioners for tobacco,

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01:32:32

any questions before we start?

Speaker 1

01:32:36

Commissioner, okay, thank you.

Speaker 22

01:32:41

Do we Commissioner more? Do you want to ask a question? Okay, I will ask question one. You could ask question four. Dimension is initiative, self management. Does anyone else want to ask a question? Commissioner de Walsh, if you could ask question six, teamwork, building Coalition for transparency purposes, we already asked questions three, five

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01:33:13

and one in

Speaker 22

01:33:15

committee. So no point in repeating though we're going to repeat one, because it's technically,

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01:33:22

I'm sorry. Where are the questions again?

Speaker 22

01:33:24

Yeah, where are the questions go under tab Jerome Jackson at the back of his section, the last three or four pages of last Yeah, okay, yeah, I see. So those are the same questions for

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01:33:38

all three sections, yeah.

Speaker 23

01:33:43

So we going one questions, one question four and question six. Thank you.

Speaker 22

01:33:55

Or 146, okay, we are not using orange juice. We're going to exercise,

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yeah, real motion. 146, all right,

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01:34:17

we're ready for the candidate to come in brown.

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I have 614, and

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01:34:34

six. Miss

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BOARD SECRETARY

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01:34:52

Matt have the

Speaker 22

01:34:54

job description to read, very briefly, summary, we do not, even if it's electronic, if you could read it, we'll give you much

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time as you need. All right,

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01:35:09

we need one to wait for The candidate one second. Yes, you

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one sec so

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bail again. Oh, yeah,

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we go. We're good now.

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01:36:12

Oh, another New tower. Yes,

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01:37:11

Guru, can you pull that up for us? The job description.

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01:37:35

So this is Jeopardy And

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did I

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sure we got

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01:38:57

summary. All right, we good, yep, all right,

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01:39:02

please bring the candidate in.

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01:39:05

You can bring Yes. Thank you.

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01:39:10

Meeting back up to order,

Speaker 3

01:39:14

439 439, May 15, and let the record reflect that Commissioner Bernard is present. You.

Speaker 5

01:39:39

This is a summary of the administrative specialist three position with the board.

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01:39:48

Sorry through

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01:39:50

the Chair. Yes, sir. Good

Speaker 28

01:39:52

afternoon. Everyone. Good afternoon, good afternoon. So item

Speaker 14

01:39:57

E on the agenda of personnel training committee, just for the entire body's awareness, this is round two of interviews for the administrative assistant level three, not to be confused with the administrative assistant posting that is separate to this, we have three candidates scheduled to be interviewed today. Our first candidate who just gentleman who joined the room is Mr. Jerome Jackson. As a reminder, you have the applications and resumes of each of the three candidates and the back of your binders along with the questions that are going to be asked by a few commissioners, if we could please read the summary of the job description.

Speaker 5

01:40:45

This is a summary of the job description for administrative specialist three board of police commissioners under General Supervision. Plan, organize, coordinate and exercise responsibility as an administrative assistant, three to the board of police commissioners, board secretary and other staff additionally leads and assists in business operations, including clerical and related work.

Speaker 14

01:41:12

Thank you. If I could kindly ask very quickly that each Commissioner introduced themselves, starting with Commissioner Bell, just so that our candidate knows who you are. District Four,

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01:41:23

Commissioner Bucha, Garcia de Walsh, at large,

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01:41:25

card or more. District seven,

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01:41:28

Attorney London Bernard. District Two,

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01:41:32

Darryl woods,

Speaker 29

01:41:33

Chair of the Board of police commission. Good afternoon. Tamara Liberty Smith, district one.

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01:41:39

Qantas Presley at large.

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01:41:44

Commissioner. Willie Burton district five.

Speaker 14

01:41:48

Thank you for joining us, sir for the second round of interviews. The format that we're going to follow is similar to what you experienced in committee earlier this week. Was it last week? Last week we're going to ask my colleagues and I are going to ask a series of three questions. These are going to be different questions from what you were asked in committee. We ask that you be as thorough as possible, taking the approach of answering the question again, with as much detail as you might have in mind. And we'll start with question one. Each of these are going to follow similar for format, also in the sense of having a category assigned to them. Question one, the dimension or category is around technical experience, if you could please briefly explain how your previous experience and or education have prepared you for this position and tied to that, if you could just elaborate on some software applications you may be familiar with and your level of

Speaker 28

01:42:45

expertise.

Well, I've had much experience. I have worked for several executives. Can you hear me now, okay, I have much experience. I have worked for many different executives, including the director of the Detroit Institute of Arts. I have worked for the director of marketing for General Motors, and I worked at Sinai Grace Hospital, where I work for the director of nursing. So I am great with computers, Word, PowerPoint, edge, and I've also worked with a seller. I currently work for the city of Detroit, where we service many different customers. We have 400 employees, and we also have 38,000 customers that we service. I'm a former school teacher, and have a lot of administrative experience, and I'm also a singer. I play organ and piano, and I'm Vice President of the Whitfield company, and this is a group known all over the country. So have a lot of experience with computers and and being in charge and as a school teacher. I was also department head of the math and science department. I was in charge of 20 teachers, and I was responsible for discipline and for the evaluation of the teachers. So I have dealt with people being diplomatic. I have a very calming personality. And being in charge is something that I've done my whole life, and it started with my mother when I was left watching the my brothers and sisters, and from there, being a department head and and being Ministry of music at a church, I was in charge of six choirs. So I had 200 over 200 choir members that I was responsible for. So diplomacy and the technical acumen just make me a great candidate. Thank you.

Speaker 14

01:44:51

Thank you so much. Next question by Commissioner Moore, thank you, sir.

Speaker 15

01:44:54

Question number four comes from the area of dimension initiative and self management. Please describe a situation in which you saw a problem at work and decided to correct it yourself, rather than wait for someone else to correct it with the following issues, what was the situation and problem? Why was it a problem? How did you go about correcting the problem? Why did you correct the problem yourself? What steps, if any, did you take to ensure that it was okay for you to correct the problem? And lastly, what happened

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as a result of your

Speaker 28

01:45:32

actions? I've had many situations where I had to take, take charge and and correct some things. First of all, being a minister of music, I had choir members all the time that wanted to sing solos, and sometimes I had to tell them, you probably would be better on the Usher board. The one that sticks out to me is working for the city of Detroit. When COVID hit, then all of us went home, so all I had to do was work four hours a day. But I decided that I was going to work 40 hours a week, eight hours a day with my team. And my rationale was, well, why in the world, why just sit four hours and let my team do the rest of the work? So I decided to work every day, and I worked with my team. I was on Zoom calls with the team, and I did this until we went back to work, and then, consequently, I started working remotely. So I've worked remotely for about the last four years, we had another situation where we had a bunch of files that we had to get done, and I decided to work overtime and complete those files. And just many, many times I've decided to work above and beyond, because that's what I enjoy doing. I like to get the job done. So that's a quick synopsis of some of the

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things that I've done. Thank you,

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01:47:00

Commissioner Walsh,

Speaker 19

01:47:02

thank you. This dimension is going to be on Team work and building coalition. And so I'm going to ask that you please describe a time when you worked with the negative person but were able to make it a positive working relationship. When you answer, please answer what the situation was, who was involved and what was your role. What makes you say that the person was negative? What did you do? How did you create a positive working relationship, and what happened as a result?

Speaker 28

01:47:44

Well, I've had many situations, particularly when I was teaching school. I taught elementary and middle school, and I had students where I had interesting situations, and I had to deal with them, with the discipline and correcting them, and yet not being too harsh. And recently, I had a situation where working for the city of Detroit, I worked for buildings and safety, and we were a part of implementation for the sherwell system. And anybody that knows anything about Detroit, we have a DO IT system. It's a ticketing system. So our department decided we wanted to implement this, and so we put it in place. And finally, my boss asked me to train a couple of my colleagues. So while training one of my colleagues, I was telling her some things that I wanted her to do, and after she typed certain things into the system, I told you have to sign your name, she told me she was not going to sign her name. So of course, I was immediately disgusted, because with my teaching and training background, I always felt like, you know the teacher, when they give you something to do, you have to listen to them, and you have to do it. So then I confronted her and asked her, Well, why is it you don't want to sign your name? She just didn't want to do it. So I explained to her why she should do it, and I told it would benefit the entire program if she would follow directions. So I've had many different situations, dealing with people and correcting people and being diplomatic and yet trying to be friendly and get the job done in a clear and succinct fashion.

Speaker 14

01:49:32

Thank you. Thank you. That'll conclude the three questions that we have. I do have a fourth question that I'll ask, if it's okay, what is your understanding of the board of police commissioners responsibility as a board?

Speaker 28

01:49:48

Well, I did a little research, I went online, and I saw some things online that gave me an idea. I know that you meet weekly, and that was surprising to me, because when I worked at the Detroit Institute of Arts, I also worked with the board of directors there, so I have experience doing that and gathering information. And I wondered what in the world could be going on. But then I found that you deal with issues within the community, when people have problems with the police department, when they need to make changes, when they need to hear from the citizens. And so basically, I know that you work together with the police department trying to to make it better for the citizens and for the police as well. Basically,

Speaker 14

01:50:39

thank you. And you have any questions of us that you would either like to ask our current staff any commissioners as as a collective body or even individually by district?

Speaker 28

01:50:51

Well, I would like to know when you meet weekly? Do you meet here all the time, or do you go out within the

Speaker 14

01:50:57

community? Pretty simple question that I think I can answer, three times a month. We're in this building at 3pm Eastern Standard Time. Might add the fourth time, which is typically the second week of the month. We rotate by district in the community, typically at different recreational centers or churches or just spaces of community gathering.

Speaker 28

01:51:18

I have two quick questions please. Number one, if I'm afforded the opportunity to work with with the your group here, this is an appointed position, so does that mean that if something happens, then I need to go back to my department. Do they allow you to revert

Speaker 14

01:51:39

that phenomenal question? That's a technical question that I think human resources would have to ask. I don't know if we have Mr. Tipton on the line. By chance we don't more than happy to take that item away and have an answer invited to

Speaker 28

01:51:52

you. And the last question in this position, would I be responsible for other workers under me? Would I be in like, a supervision type situation or no.

Speaker 14

01:52:05

So I think there's more to be discovered with this role. Currently, that responsibility, or the responsibility for this position, has been distributed out naturally so that the work can continue to flow in terms of structure. I think that's a pending decision that needs to come after, after the fact. Historically, though I believe and correct me if I'm wrong, but historically, there has been some level of supervision in

Speaker 28

01:52:29

this role, all right? And my last question would be, I am currently trying to finish my dissertation. I've been trying to complete my PhD for the longest, and it's an interesting topic. It's why males don't go to the doctor. So might I be able to get some information within the police department? Or

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01:52:50

would you know?

Speaker 14

01:52:52

Could you clarify your question as it relates to your dissertation, what do

Speaker 28

01:52:57

you mean? Well, I have to do research. Okay, so some of the research I'm doing is why men don't go to the doctor, and I know a lot of men suffer with this issue, so I don't know if that would be allowed or not.

Speaker 14

01:53:10

I'm not sure that you would be able to cross pollinate, if you will, there would be a separation of employment and subsequent research that you're doing outside of this job. We can get an answer though, a concrete answer from human resources and legal but I would anticipate that you would not be

Speaker 28

01:53:27

able to do that okay. And in conclusion, I thank you all very much. I look forward to working with you have given the opportunity, and I appreciate your time. Appreciate your time. Thank

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01:53:36

you so much. Thank you very time.

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01:53:42

Can we have the next candidate?

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01:54:04

That's a cold statement.

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01:54:10

We apologize to everybody for being late.

Speaker 30

01:54:13

I was trying to get here. I was in court. They just kept court going on even after the bicycles will be gone. That's okay. Okay,

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01:54:24

so it's trying to help a 90 year old.

Speaker 14

01:54:29

Okay? Mr. Hernandez, good afternoon. Thank you. Through the Chair, we'll begin this similar to how we began the personnel and training committee meeting. Just as a reminder, this is the second round of interviews for the administrative assistant position three. Miss blossom. If we could have that same summary read for

Speaker 19

01:54:49

this position? Mr. Chair, if I could just, can we have the name repeat it. Could you state your name please? Candice Roy, thank you.

Speaker 5

01:55:00

This is a summary of the administrative specialist three for the board of police commissioners under General Supervision, plan, organize, coordinate and exercise responsibility as an administrative assistant, three to the board of police commissioners, board secretary and other staff additionally leads and assists in business operations, including clerical

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01:55:27

and related work.

Speaker 14

01:55:30

Thank you. The format, just for your awareness will be similar to the first round of interviews. They will be different questions that will be asked by myself and colleagues on the board at the end, will allow for you to ask questions of the board or of current staff as well as appropriate. Okay, Okay, question one in each of these questions, again, are based on a dimension or a category, is around the dimension of technical experience. Please briefly explain how your previous and or how your previous experience and or education have prepared you for this position. What are some of the software applications that you're familiar with in your level of expertise? Can

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01:56:10

you repeat the first half of

Speaker 14

01:56:12

Absolutely. Please briefly explain how your previous experience and or education have prepared you for this position.

Speaker 6

01:56:22

So my educational background is in Paralegal Studies. I hold an associate and a bachelor's degree in Paralegal Studies, so I have a firm understanding of complex legal issues and matters. My previous work experience has always been in the government sector, both on the state and local level. I worked with state of Michigan Department of Health and Human Services for a period of 11 years as an eligibility specialist. I was required to maintain a caseload of approximately 900 cases assisting families within the state of Michigan, and now on the local level with the city of Detroit and the board of police commissioners. For the last two and a half years, I have a familiarity with the day to day operations of the board.

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01:57:16

Thank you, Commissioner more, thank you. This

Speaker 15

01:57:19

question deals with dimension, initiative, self management. Please describe the situation in which you saw a problem at work and decided to correct it yourself rather than wait for someone else to correct it with the following entities, what was the situation and problem? Why was this a problem? How did you go about correcting the problem yourself? Why did you correct the problem yourself? What steps, if any, did you take to ensure that it was okay for you to correct the problem? And lastly, what happened as a result of your actions?

Speaker 6

01:57:56

Recently, a citizen reached out to the board. She was looking for services to assist her with an eviction. Drawing on my background, working with the state, I knew that the services that would best assist her would be through the state. So I spoke with the customer, and I let her know that the state of Michigan does offer assistance with evictions. I walked out the process for her and what is she needed to do as far as getting those services, and I took the initiative to help her, because, again, I knew what the process is. The board doesn't insist with evictions, but I had the resources and the knowledge to assist her.

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01:58:46

Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner de Walsh,

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01:58:48

yes. Thank you

Speaker 19

01:58:53

my section is about teamwork and building coalition. And the question is, please describe a time when you worked with the negative person but were able to make it a positive working relationship. And please answer what was the situation, who was involved in? What was your role? What makes you the person? What makes you say that the person was negative? What did you do? How did you create a positive working relationship, and what happened as a result?

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01:59:33

Can you repeat that? That was a very long

Speaker 19

01:59:34

question, the whole thing, yes, okay, please describe a time when you worked with a negative person but were able to make it a positive working relationship. What was the situation? Who was involved and what was your role? What makes you say that the person was negative? What did you do? How did you create a positive working relationship? And what was, what was, what happened as a result a negative

Speaker 6

02:00:12

person that I have worked with. Okay, so a lot of times working with the board, we do have conflicting personalities, wants, needs, desires, but I think that it's important to remember that when we are public servants, which you all are, as well as am I that we are working for the public. We are here to assist. We are here to help. So if we are working with others that are negative and our personalities don't necessarily mesh, the ultimate goal is to assist the public. So with that, when I do work with individuals that I don't necessarily mesh with, or what the end goal is. Our end goal is to help. Is to assist and to serve.

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02:01:02

Thank you.

Speaker 14

02:01:03

Thank you. I have one final question for you, which is, what is your understanding of the board of police commissioners responsibility?

Speaker 6

02:01:11

My understanding of the board of police commissioners, responsibility is to be the oversight body for the Detroit Police Department. Additionally, they are to assist citizens when they bring matters before the board, and they're responsible for their districts and whatever initiatives that they would like to see happen within those districts.

Speaker 14

02:01:40

Thank you. Are there any questions that you may have of current staff? Present any commissioners as a collective body or individually by district?

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02:01:49

No,

Speaker 3

02:01:52

thank you so much. Any final remarks? No,

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okay,

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02:01:56

Thank you. Thank you.

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02:02:09

Candidate.

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02:02:15

You Good afternoon or good

Speaker 14

02:02:48

evening, actually, if you could please say your name for the record,

Speaker 31

02:02:52

good afternoon. My name is John. Yeah. Underwood,

Speaker 14

02:02:55

thank you. Miss blossom. If you could do the honor of reading the summary for the job.

Speaker 5

02:03:00

This is the summary for administrative specialist. Three, board of police commissioners under General Supervision, plan, organize, coordinate and exercise responsibility as an administrative assistant, three to the board of police commissioners, board secretary and other staff additionally leads and assists in business operations, including clerical and related work.

Speaker 14

02:03:30

Thank you. Just as a reminder, this will take a similar format as the first round of interviews. This is obviously wave two, or the second phase of interviews. Myself, along with a few colleagues on the board, will ask you a series of questions. At the very end, you'll be able to ask us a

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02:03:46

question. Should you have it? Thank you.

Speaker 14

02:03:51

These questions are based, similarly as your first round on different dimensions of experience, the first dimension is around technical experience. Please briefly explain how your previous experience and or education have prepared you for this position. What are some of the software applications that you're familiar with and your level of expertise you

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02:04:15

Well, I am a

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02:04:21

dedicated,

Speaker 31

02:04:23

result driven professional administrative assistant. I have been in this field my career, and in my career, I have been with several governmental, governmental agencies, including the US military. I am proficient in Microsoft suite. I do web postings. I am I utilize GOV Delivery software. I

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02:05:00

use an eye a lot. Excuse me. Well, I

Speaker 31

02:05:09

I'm interested in this job because it aligns with my background and my skill set. I

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02:05:19

feel that this is an opportunity for me

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02:05:23

to contribute,

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02:05:27

meaningful, assist.

Speaker 15

02:05:53

Yourself rather than wait for someone else to correct it, please use the following what was the situation and problem? Why was this a problem? How did you go about correcting the problem yourself? Why did you correct the

Speaker 1

02:06:07

problem yourself? What steps, if any, did you take to

Speaker 31

02:06:10

ensure that it was okay for you to correct the problem? What happened as a result of your actions? Oftentimes, we work as a team, so what we were experiencing a problem in the office with our copy machine. I came in one day and my settings were changed completely, and I wasn't able to utilize it the way that I prefer. Several other staff members were having that same issue. So I decided to contact the sales representative and get on the phone with the sales representative issue indicate what my problem was and how we needed it to be resolved. I was able to work through trial and error with them, and eventually they got my machine working properly,

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02:07:09

and I was

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02:07:10

able to also have

Speaker 19

02:07:12

the other staff members machine to work the same way that I like mines to work. Thank you. Commissioner Walsh, thank you. My question has to do with teamwork, building coalition. Please describe a time when you worked with a negative person but were able to make it a positive working relationship. And when you answer this, please answer, what was the situation, who was involved and what was your role? What makes you say that the person was negative?

Speaker 31

02:07:48

What did you do? How did you create a positive working

Speaker 19

02:07:53

relationship, and what happened as a result?

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02:07:58

Would you repeat that one more time? Yes,

Speaker 19

02:08:02

please describe a time when you worked with the negative person but were able to make it a positive working relationship. Answer, what was the the situation? Who was involved? What was your role? What makes you say that the person was negative?

Speaker 24

02:08:23

What did you do? How did you create a

Speaker 31

02:08:27

positive working relationship, and what happened as a result? I uh, well, I'm thinking about a time when I was working with another member of the staff.

Unknown Speaker

02:08:45

I wouldn't say they were a negative person, but we just

Speaker 24

02:08:48

perhaps did not agree on how to work

Speaker 31

02:08:51

together, and so I had to,

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02:09:01

I'd had to kind of

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02:09:04

present what I wanted to do

Speaker 31

02:09:08

and work In the parameters of how they wanted to work, and

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02:09:16

even though it wasn't perfect,

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02:09:21

we were able to do the task

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02:09:24

and get the job done. Thank you.

Speaker 31

02:09:30

Thank you. One final question, what is your understanding of the board of police commissioners responsibility. The Board of police commissioners responsibility is an oversight of the police department, and our role, or

Speaker 14

02:09:45

what I think a part of our role, is to assist the citizens who have issues and concerns with the police. Yes,

Unknown Speaker

02:09:57

thank you. So that'll conclude the

Speaker 24

02:09:59

interview. If you have any questions that you'd like to ask either current staff,

Speaker 31

02:10:04

the full body or individual Commissioners by district?

Speaker 31

02:10:13

No, I don't have any questions, any closing comments.

Speaker 24

02:10:19

Thank you for the opportunity. I really do want this job, but I really appreciate having this chance. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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02:10:30

Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 14

02:10:52

So that will conclude the interview of all three candidates that made it forward, obviously, first and second phase of interviews, I remind commissioners that there is no closed session for this portion. Any discussion that you may have can take place openly, keeping in mind that this is obviously a public forum. There isn't anything confidential that we would share, per se regarding salaries or otherwise at this moment, so I'll just gently remind each of us of that.

Speaker 24

02:11:23

But if there is a motion for one of the three candidates to move forward, you can exercise your vote

Unknown Speaker

02:11:29

up or down to select a candidate.

Speaker 3

02:11:39

Yes, I have a motion to move Johnny Underwood would forward second support.

Unknown Speaker

02:11:48

There's a motion to move Johnny Underwood

Speaker 3

02:11:50

forward by Commissioner the wash and is supported by Commissioner more.

Speaker 14

02:12:00

Commissioner Bernard, I'm sorry, any discussion, yeah, through the chair. The only discussion that I would provide is that we had 47 candidates for this posting. In particular, there was a submission of all 47 of those candidates to the personnel and training committee. There was a thorough review in partnership with city HR,

Unknown Speaker

02:12:23

you obviously saw the quality of the three candidates,

Speaker 30

02:12:26

and that's all that I would ask you to consider. Just know that this was a thorough process from start to finish. Yes, thank you, Commissioner Hernandez, for sharing that information with us. That's very important for us to get 47 people that are good people for the commission. Is very impressive. I want to congratulate you and the members of the committee for going through all those resumes, which I'm sure was a challenge in and of itself, and and coming up with three great candidates, two of whom we were familiar with, which is

Speaker 3

02:13:03

great. So that means we're providing upward mobility and upward opportunity here at the commission. So thank you very much, and for your presentation, it was excellent. Yep, any other discussion, discussion I will have is that that we our expectation of anyone coming working for the board of police commission, that they step it up for the citizens of the city of Detroit, and that we will not tolerate sub part work. And so as appointee, we will be look at whoever will come in there, making sure that the job is getting done for the citizens of the city of Detroit, and so whoever it is, we would take them through an evaluation process. And I'm happy to support my commissioners in this motion by however. You know, let's stay vigilant and making sure that the citizens get the best product that they can get. And I understand the reasons why people support this particular motion. Miss Underwood is a phenomenal person. Just contribute a lot to to the board of

Unknown Speaker

02:14:12

police commissioners

Speaker 30

02:14:14

for this for a number of years.

Speaker 2

02:14:17

But you know, the interview was not the best interview.

Speaker 15

02:14:20

All right? Person that comes to work every day, sure, I would just say this as it relates to interviews, there's such a thing called style versus substance. Yeah, a person might not present the way Barack Obama or somebody famous might present, or restaurant even me, because I don't get the best interviews, believe it or not. So therefore I can relate to the situation in which you're talking about. Yeah, substance is there because, for sure, she's proven in battle,

Speaker 18

02:14:55

because I put her to the test personally, as relates to my district, and she's upheld the gold standard. So okay, that's why she's getting my vote absolutely for the chair. Yes, sir. I agree with Commissioner. More out of seven, out of district seven, yes, sir. You know, I always talk about substance and and, but also want to talk about character. You know, Miss Underwood has great character, great intellect, does the job, shows up every day, do the work that's assigned toward. Don't complain. You talk about somebody that is dependable, dedicated when the when office was short, hand staffed, she stepped up along with other additional staff members, you know. And in the office, Candace hay stepped up in a big way. But that just show you that

Unknown Speaker

02:15:55

you know that

Speaker 18

02:15:58

you know that we have some really good talent in this office, but also want to acknowledge Commissioner Hernandez for the hard work him and his team has done far as going through the screening process and the things that we don't always agree on everything, but when you go through screening 47 people, you bring them for 47 names. You looking at this? I know this man works hard. I've sat next to him for many years on the board. He's a great guy. He has great character. He works hard sometimes. You know, as a leader, you know you got to think outside the box. You got to move move forward. And that's what committed Commissioner Hernandez does. He moves forward. And I like the recommendations that he brought before the board today for us moving forward. And I like how we as a team, as a as a commission,

Unknown Speaker

02:17:04

and how we moving forward today, and how

Speaker 2

02:17:08

and how we working together. I mean this, this, this, this is great.

Speaker 15

02:17:12

Thank you. We share those sentiments All in favor. Say, aye.

Unknown Speaker

02:17:16

Anyone opposed, motion is carried

Speaker 14

02:17:20

through the chair. What about filling that position? We're on top of it. So if I can move forward to our recommendation. So there was also, as a reminder, an administrative assistant position that we interviewed in committee for keep me honest, Miss board secretary. I think we had 116 candidates for that posting which commissioners, Carter woods and myself looked line by line, every single resume application, also in partnership with city HR, we ended up producing a list to interview those candidates were interviewed in committee. Subsequently, there was a recommendation that came out for that posting. I will remind the board, which I began based on Commissioner Burton's question in the beginning of this meeting, I began to elaborate the rationale as to why we're producing one firm candidate for that position, along with a perspective. It was not in anticipation that we would ultimately select current staff for the administrative assistant three position. It was under the premise that in the future, beginning in July, the board is preliminarily approved through a budget increase to higher additional head count at the same level as the administrative assistant position. And I believe they're preliminarily going to be two postings. So we were in partnership with city. HR advised that we could pull from the same list of candidates. So we just made a proactive attempt with the recommendation that you're going to see. So we met on well for several weeks. But on May 9, board attendees were myself, Commissioner Carter, Vice Chairperson, tamer, Liberty Smith and chairperson Darrell woods were in attendance. Staff attendees. BOARD SECRETARY, Lydia Garnier drew freeze. Fiscal manager, there was again an interviewing of four candidates out of five, I will note that the fifth candidate did not show up and we didn't receive any any additional communication from that individual for the administrative assistant vacant position. The recommendation to the full board is to move the named individuals to the full board for appointment. So it would be for appointment to the administrative assistant position, Jasmine Juarez Espinoza, to fill the actual current administrative assistant position,

Unknown Speaker

02:20:01

and then for prospective future

Speaker 14

02:20:03

posting would be Dior Mathis

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02:20:08

full stop period.

Speaker 14

02:20:12

The second recommendation based on the interviews that we just held for administrative specialist. Three, again, as a reminder, we interviewed five candidates in committee, out of 47 candidates you just saw the second round, it would be for the appointment to the administrative assistant position three,

Unknown Speaker

02:20:31

Miss Jonah Underwood.

Speaker 13

02:20:34

That would be the recommendation moving forward, I believe we may need a second.

Speaker 14

02:20:40

And I might need a committee composed of one person. Sorry, was it a committee you may compose the more than one person? Yes, then there will be no second required. The nuance that I would need guidance on is so the first vacancy, the first candidate came out as a recommendation from the board or from the committee.

Unknown Speaker

02:21:01

The second recommendation for

Speaker 13

02:21:02

appointment, we just decided. So I don't think we have to include that. Do we know that should be a new point?

Unknown Speaker

02:21:11

So the question

Unknown Speaker

02:21:13

commissioner is the

Unknown Speaker

02:21:15

second recommendation is

Speaker 3

02:21:17

not a motion from the committee, correct, then that will require a second

Speaker 14

02:21:23

so we just did that. Though, yeah, we just forgot. We just interviewed the candidate, and we just chose the candidate by vote. So I guess what I'm saying this to through the chair to level set us. The original memorandum from the committee included the listed candidates for appointment to the first level position. It also included a recommendation to interview the three that we just did. So that negates, okay, but motion we

Speaker 3

02:21:55

just adopted. So do we have to? Is there a second needed? Based on the edit of this memorandum? Is what I'm asking

Speaker 14

02:22:05

you can just uplift the item and let's move forward. Then I will do that. Then thank

Unknown Speaker

02:22:15

you for your support. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker

02:22:17

through the chair. Then I'll

Speaker 3

02:22:19

make a motion for appointment to the administrative assistant position, Jasmine Juarez Espinoza, and for a prospective future

Speaker 15

02:22:25

position, Administrator assistant, Dior Mathis, motion made by Commissioner seconded

Unknown Speaker

02:22:30

by Commissioner Burton.

Speaker 3

02:22:32

Any discussion? Yes, are these people present so we can see who

Unknown Speaker

02:22:37

don't believe so? No, yeah, they,

Unknown Speaker

02:22:40

these would came out of

Speaker 3

02:22:41

personnel and training committee interviews, right? They don't, never. So the three we just interviewed, they didn't go to a personal trainer, yeah?

Speaker 15

02:22:48

But we, we made a motion to to to move them forward for a second interview. There wasn't a need for a second interview for the

Speaker 3

02:22:57

first so it's not a need for us to even see I'm just curious. I would just like to know who we get, and that's all. That's just me personally,

Speaker 22

02:23:04

as we've done before, but push it to the vote. All

Speaker 3

02:23:07

in favor, say, Aye. Aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. What is the pleasure motion to adjourn? Motion?

Speaker 32

02:23:17

by Commissioner bennard to adjourn and supported by Commissioner, Moore. No, and all the favorite say.

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