I will say that last night, I was thinking that in terms of JJ coming to California every summer participating in ANV is giving him a sense of you know, that he belongs, that he has a place, people know him and this and that. And I think that, you know, all the families that have their children participate in a camping --in the camp should, you know, once at least come camping or volunteer at camping so they can get a better sense of what it's all about. I really appreciate you.
